Re: Random X10 all lights on/all units off over and over

[nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston)]

looper@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

>Ok, this was embarassing.  I drove home today to find all the X10
>lights in my house toggling on, toggling off, on, off, on off.  My
>house is X10 Haunted!
>
>As soon as I got inside, I unplugged the CM11A,  and the TM751
>transceiver, and a mini-switch I have. These are all the devices that I
>have that can possibly generate X10 signals.  The haunting continued.
>After about a minute, I tried to use one of the wireless remote
>controls, (which should have had no effect since the transceiver was
>unplugged) and suddenly everything stopped.
>
>Checking my homeseer logs, I see a lot of noise, which I usually get,
>but I'm too cheap to buy a signal analyzer/filter and debug it.
>
>
>12/8/2006 7:59:08 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A On
>12/8/2006 7:59:17 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A Off
>12/8/2006 7:59:24 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A On
>12/8/2006 7:59:30 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A Off
>12/8/2006 7:59:32 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ B All Lights On
>12/8/2006 7:59:32 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Lights On
>12/8/2006 7:59:34 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Units Off
>12/8/2006 7:59:34 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ B All Units Off
>12/8/2006 7:59:34 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Lights On
>12/8/2006 7:59:35 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A On
>12/8/2006 7:59:41 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ B All Units Off
>12/8/2006 7:59:41 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Lights On
>12/8/2006 7:59:41 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Units Off
>12/8/2006 7:59:46 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A Off
>12/8/2006 7:59:55 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A On
>12/8/2006 8:00:01 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A Off
>12/8/2006 8:00:18 PM~!~X10 Received~!~B9 (?)  B Bright 7
>12/8/2006 8:00:19 PM~!~X10 Received~!~B9 (?)  B Bright 7
>12/8/2006 8:00:34 PM~!~X10 Received~!~B9 (?)  B Bright 7
>12/8/2006 8:00:34 PM~!~X10 Received~!~B9 (?)  B Bright 7
>12/8/2006 8:00:35 PM~!~X10 Received~!~B9 (?)  B Bright 7
>12/8/2006 8:00:39 PM~!~X10 Received~!~B9 (?) B2 (Family Room TV ON on
>remote) B9 (?)  B Bright 7
>12/8/2006 8:00:39 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Lights On
>12/8/2006 8:00:39 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Units Off
>12/8/2006 8:00:39 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ B All Units Off
>12/8/2006 8:00:39 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Lights On
>12/8/2006 8:00:40 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Units Off
>12/8/2006 8:00:40 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ B All Units Off
>12/8/2006 8:00:40 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Lights On
>12/8/2006 8:00:42 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Units Off
>12/8/2006 8:00:42 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ B All Lights On
>12/8/2006 8:00:42 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Lights On
>12/8/2006 8:00:46 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A On
>12/8/2006 8:00:52 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A Off
>12/8/2006 8:00:58 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A On
>12/8/2006 8:01:08 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A Off
>12/8/2006 8:01:14 PM~!~X10 Received~!~A14 (?)  A On
>12/8/2006 8:01:19 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ B All Lights On
>12/8/2006 8:01:19 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ B All Units Off
>12/8/2006 8:01:19 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Lights On
>12/8/2006 8:01:20 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Units Off
>12/8/2006 8:01:21 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ B All Units Off
>12/8/2006 8:01:21 PM~!~X10 Received~!~ A All Lights On
>etc etc.
>
>
>I don't know what the B9 Bright 7 is, it's noise I always get from
>something and just ignore.A14 is the night/day unit for a motion sensor
>I have - not sure why it was toggling, it often does that, I should
>replace the batteries or replace the sensor
>
>I'm willing to put up with noise and a generally pretty unreliable X10
>system, but coming home to every single light in my house toggling is
>very, very embarassing.  Especially since I really don't know the cause
>of it.  Fortunately, according to the homeseer logs, it onlly went
>completely nuts about 30 minutes before I got home, and the wife wasn't
>home, so that embarassment was spared.
>
>I have a mixture of appliance switches, wall switches, lamp modules,
>etc.
>
>Can anyone suggest what it could be? I thought it could be a faulty
>transceiver or a faulty Cm11a, but when I pulled all of these it was
>still insane. I'm assuming that there's no concept of "buffering" in
>the units so it couldn't have been afteraffect from a broken
>transmitter that had been unplugged.  The only other clue I can offer
>is that we're having a rainstorm.
>
>By the way, searching through my log, I don't see any other time when
>"B All Units Off" was hit. It seems this was a unique occurence.  I
>just dont want it to hit again in the middle of the night and have to
>go unwire all the x10's from my house, or change their house codes.
>
>Thanks.

Do you have an HCA02-10E coupler/repeater?

How far to the nearest neighbor? X-10 RF range normally is on the order of
30-40 feet.

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