Re: Who can add extended code support to Mister House?

[Charles Sullivan <cwsulliv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I've seen that doc, but there's no indication of a connection
with the X10 PLC Type 2 Extended Codes.

The fact of the matter is that the W800rf32a reports only
two _significant_ bytes for an RF transmission from the
DS10A.  One is a "security address" which is generated
randomly when the DS10A is reset.  The second contains the
function code, with bits for switch open/closed, position of
front panel slider switch, and I believe low battery.

There's nothing to prevent software being written to format
these two bytes into some semblance of an X10 PLC Type 2 Extended
Code, but the software might just as well convert the two
bytes into a standard X10 code, like A1 ON, A1 OFF.

BTW, one other consideration with the DS10A is that it
automatically reports its status every 60-70 minutes, so the
software would have to look for changes in status.

Regarding Misterhouse and the 1132B, there's a Sourceforge
Misterhouse forum/mailing list which is frequented by the
developers.  You might get some answers there.

For your mailbox, why don't you just stick a motion sensor
on the inside back wall.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:54:35 -0700, Jack Edin wrote:

> Charles,
>
> I believe I'm speaking of the type 2 codes.
>
> My need is RF...
>
> Here is a document explaining the Protocol:
>
> http://www.wgldesigns.com/protocols/w800rf32_protocol.txt
>
> =========================================================
>
> Does Mister House work with the PowerLinc 1132B?
>
> How do I configure it?
>
> Thankx, again!
>
> Jack
> :)
>
>
> Charles Sullivan wrote:
>> Is there any special relationship between the RF "extended codes"
>> transmitted by the DS10A Door/Window Switch and the X10 PLC
>> Extended Codes recognized by X10 2-way Lamp Modules like the
>> LM14A?  Or are they two entirely different things referred to by
>> the same name?  (I notice that X10's XTC798.DOC refers to the
>> Type 2 PLC Extended Codes as "Reserved for Security" but there's
>> nothing further.)
>>
>> The 1132B can send and receive the PLC Extended Codes and the
>> W800RF32A can receive the RF "extended codes", but beyond the
>> names I don't know of a connection.
>>
>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:25:34 -0700, Jack Edin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello gang!
>>>
>>>Somebody in this group mentioned the W800RF32A and it's ability to
>>>receive extended X10 like their alarm devices.
>>>
>>>I want to know when the mail arrives.
>>>
>>>My simple plan will tie in with another complex one, so I chose the
>>>following method...
>>>
>>>I bought an X10 Door/Window sensor model DS10A. I got 3 for $25-ish,
>>>delivered... from X10.com
>>>
>>>I bought a plastic mailbox from Homedepot.com, and I await it's arrival.
>>>
>>>I figured I would catch the signal with the sensitive RF receiver, and
>>>the information would be available on a serial port. RS-232
>>>
>>>On the WGL website it is mentioned that their product is compatible with
>>>Mister House. Wonderful!!
>>>
>>>I knew of the Mister House project, and remember it is written in Perl.
>>>
>>>What an outstanding choice, Perl. It can do Web stuff, TCP/IP ports,
>>>Serial, disk access... Everything I ever wanted to make HA interfaces.
>>>
>>>So I discovered the way to enable support for the W800RF32A in the
>>>mh.ini file, and did.
>>>
>>>I'm using this PC temporarily, for various testing. It has but 1 serial
>>>port. And it is within an X10 dead zone, so neither of my new PowerLinc
>>>1132B's receive anything over the power line. When my AF-120 filter
>>>returns, then X10 will return to this branch circuit.
>>>
>>>Mister House doesn't like no being connected to a PLC. And it wants a
>>>CM11 or a CM17. I didn't see mention of the TW523 or the PowerLinc
>>>1132B. Am I covered?
>>>
>>>Both the PowerLinc 1132B and the W800RF32A support the extended codes.
>>>
>>>It wasn't until I dug deeper did I discover that the Extended codes are
>>>not yet fully supported.
>>>
>>>Dohh!!
>>>
>>>So I read the Mister House module for the W800 and see it is only
>>>looking for a 4-byte response. The extended codes are 6-bytes, and maybe
>>>9 more bits in some cases... Thats 2 more bytes...!
>>>
>>>Currently the module doesn't get the extended job done.
>>>
>>>Who am I gonna call??
>>>
>>>I'm tempted to pay a few bucks for this, and I know about Rent-A-Coder.
>>>I could ask for bids to extend the W800 module to include all code
>>>functionality.
>>>
>>>Who knows HOW much it would cost?
>>>
>>>And I know this is a SourceForge project. Plenty of coders out there!
>>>
>>>If I do pay for this, do I then release it for free? Harsh!
>>>
>>>Anybody besides me think WGL should provide?
>>>
>>>I don't expect any help from Dave Huston... Dave don't hate me 'cause I
>>>plan to use the W800RF32A without government authority, to keep an eye
>>>on my post master approved mailbox.
>>>
>>>I have an Elk M1 Gold. If I buy a wireless zone expander, and a wireless
>>>door/window sensor... I can have what I need. Kinda expensive at about
>>>$130 if memory serves. Probably a better solution!
>>>
>>>But...
>>>
>>>I want to monitor occupancy, and log all motion sensors to a text file.
>>>I believe Mister House can be made to do this for me easily. The W800 is
>>>at the center of this functionality...
>>>
>>>This is why I didn't go with the other hardware.
>>>
>>>So WHO is it I need to talk into re-writing the W800 module for Mister
>>>House, so as to include ALL the X10 extended codes?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Jack
>>>:)
>>
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