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Re: Looking at Zwave products and need recommendations?



On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:23:25 GMT, nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston) wrote in
message  <431a9148.108082978@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:


>When the CPU-XA (Ocelot forerunner) was first introduced, I reveiwed it and
>told everyone who was looking for something beyond the basics to at least
>take a look at it because it offered the most bang for the buck. That
>usually provoked a response from Hult trashing the CPU-XA and arguing for a
>different system (that he had spent $3000 on). He would argue three sides of
>any particular point. I quit posting on the CPU-XA to avoid all his trash
>talk but, by that time, there were many others singing its praises.
>

More demonstrable nonsense:

1) The Elk Magic Module and Adicon/Ocelot units both cost in the neighborhood
of  $200 not $3000!

2) Dave would recommend the Adicon units to anyone and everyone, disregarding
the fact that the Adicon -- however useful to those who could learn to program
in an arcane proprietary language -- would do absolutely nothing useful for the
vast majority of homeowners who can't or won't program in C-Max.

He did not mention this in his posts, which was and is misleading in my
opinion. Of course, Dave's HA software (Commander-X)  supported Adicon but not
Elk ;-) As I recall, Dave eased off his one-sided promotion campaign when
Commander-X was withdrawn. I used then and still use today Savoy's CyberHouse
which is still --five+ years after I spent the last dime on it -- the best HA
software out there for my purposes. And yes, it supported Elk, and yes, a
limited version came almost free with Elk modules.

Yes, I did and do and will discuss various "sides of any particular point".
That is a good thing. Extended to the formal process of science, this is akin
to multiple working hypotheses (FWIW, pioneered by geologists) -- Let's assess
which of several alternatives works best by testing each against the available
facts of the matter. But Dave seems to have a need has to pick a _single_
"winner".

I've grown to understand that Dave has a behavior pattern that resembles a
wanna-be horse bettor. (We live in Kentucky where that is endemic.)  His ego
gets involved in announcing the probable winners even when he doesn't have the
money to wage. When he is wagering real money on a venture, nothing seems to
matter but winning. Facts that get in the way are dismissed with ad hominem
attacks as y'all have seen.

"Old Stewball was a racehorse /  I wish he were mine ..."

Marc
Marc_F_Hult
www.ECOntrol.com




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