Re: The MM & Jiminex show (was: Bass...)

["BruceR" <brNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Jim, please stop cross posting this stuff to CHA.

From:Jim
alarminex@xxxxxxx

> Robert L. Bass wrote:
>>> If someone in CHA were to go real life...
>>
>
> You just don't want this to end ...... do you? You going to be the
> cause of CHA going down the tubes as you've done to ASA?
>
>> What this fellow deliberately fails to mention is that I called
>> *after* the perpetrator (another of the same "ASA" folks who has
>> posted tons of useless trash in these newsgroups) posted my soc sec
>> number in the newsgroup. It appeared that he may have run an illegal
>> credit check, in addition to this outrageous act of harassment.  IMO
>> that contstituted a RT attack and necessitated a response.  It
>> remains a question whether he did in fact run an illegal credit
>> check using his employer's access.  He denies it but he's been
>> caught lying hundreds of times.  His boss' reply was an apology that
>> "his problem" (G. Morgan) had apparently also become mine.
>
> Does that include what you did to Tom? Does that include what you did
> to the people in the aviation group? Does that include how hard you've
> tried to get information about Frank and me and a few others here that
> were smart enough to know what kind of asshole you were and kept our
> ID's private? You'll notice that I've never done what you do to people
> and that I don't condone anyone who would go real life with anyone.
> But YOU've actually been quoted as say that you LOVE to do that to
> people who annoy you. Is that all it take to make you do it? ANNOY
> you? It's no wonder people have done things to you that are
> unspeakable ...... because you can't just stop doing what you do to
> outrage people. And then when they get back at you ........... YOU'VE
> got the audacity to blame it all on THEM! You intentionally irritate
> and ridicule people which you KNOW is going to anger people. You
> actually take pleasure in causing animosity so that people will
> resent anything that you say or do. This has been your conduct for
> YEARS in Usenet ......... so don't try to say that people simply
> singled you out, for no reason at all, and did nasty things. Again,
> it's no coincidence that YOU are always at the center of any
> conflict. You've got too many years of archived evidence against you,
> for you to try to play the innocent.
>
>>
>> Jiminex, in his haste to attack, deliberately ignores this and the
>> repeated personal attacks, noth online and real life, which another
>> of his friends, one Michael Sabodish (the fellow who pretends to be
>> a "Group Moderator") has perpetrated.  This individual has gone
>> after my sister, my neighbnors, my children, my elderly parents and
>> their neighbors.  He has made a six- or seven-year carreer of
>> harassing me.
>
> Another of your tactics can be exposed right now. There is no
> "friendship" between Sabodish and me. You're tactic of including
> everyone who dislikes you into a "group" has no basis in truth
> whatsoever. I don't know Mike and I don't want to know him. What about
> Doug, and Mikey, and Jack and Mark, and Frank, and Graham, and Tom and
> all the others in ASA who oppose you? Is this all a conspiracy and we
> just happend to pick on YOU? I dislike you and oppose you for the
> slimy piece of effluent that you are. Get a clue scum bag. People
> don't like you because you're such a nasty son of a bitch and you
> treat people rancor and animosity simply because they disagree with
> you. You savor your retribution when you can say something nasty to
> someone but then cry innocence when some one gets back at you.
>
> I know that wherever you've gone in Usenet you've caused the same
> problems that you cause in ASA. I know and have witnessed what you've
> done to people in ASA, for all the years that I've been a participant.
> I've seen person after person leave this group because of what you do
> and because of what you do to people and the resultant chaos that you
> leave behind. This group could be a great site, as I presume CHA is.
> But I also presume that THAT's because you've finally learned your
> lesson and have not used your acerbic sarcasim to incite people into
> the arguments, that you are renowned for in ASA. And isn't it amazing
> that for six or seven years, when many times things could have quieted
> down, you've started it all over again by deliberatly making hostile
> comments designed to incite and start things going again. Every time
> you go on vacation, the group starts to get along. When you return,
> within a couple of days, with out provocation, you're making vile
> references about people, who you KNOW are not going to take your
> garbage ....... and you start it all over again. YOU are the reason
> and the cause of turmoil in ASA and you just wont stop. And that is
> proved by the fact that you don't do in CHA what you do in ASA. That
> ALONE, says that you are deliberately causing the the problems here.
> That recent revelation would seem to me, should incite some kind of
> spark in the "do nothings" in ASA. It's simply amazing that in spite
> of the fact that the people in ASA, all of whom you certainly know
> what you do there ..... know what you cause there, have seen and
> known it for years and dislike you for it ........ will do nothing to
> sanction you.
>
> Did you ever count up the people who've left the group because of you
> and added that to the people who object to you who still participate?
> I just can't understand what you can ever hope to gain by acting the
> way that you do. I don't sell anything here and have nothing to gain
> or lose. Others who have stores don't advertise here except Mike, but
> he STARTED his store, just to bug you. How stupid. You've created
> your own enemy! On the other hand, YOU have everything to gain by
> getting along with the people in ASA. How many people haven't gone to
> your site over the years because of the chaos that you've caused in
> ASA? How many people have been turned off by what they see in ASA?
> You say that you wont stop advertising in the group, but only two or
> three people a week ever even come to the group and most aren't
> looking to buy anything. So what's the reason for you to insist on
> ignoring the FAQ and on top of that, causing animosity among the
> participants that could refer business to you? YOU'RE the only one
> who stand to lose by inciting chaos here and yet you continue to do
> it. You're a stupid, stupid man.
>
>
>
>>
>> Sabodish, several other competitors from this newsgroup and their
>> friends have filed false complaints with the Florida and Connecticut
>> licensing authorities.  These were each dismissed when the
>> investigators from each state found no merit in the complaints.
>> Sabodish has also created a hate website dedicated to his
>> cyber-stalking efforts.  The website was repeatedly taken down when
>> his various ISPs saw nazi insignia and other such filth on his
>> pages.  The current iteration is apparently somewhat sanitized but
>> it still contains stolen artwork, some of which belongs to me and
>> some to manufacturers in my industry.
>>
>
> Would that be like the information that used to be on your web site
> that you plagerized from manufacturers? ..... and only took it down
> after you trid to pass it off as yours and got caught by someone here.
> How how about that Andersen window description that you stole from me
> and gloated that you were putting it on your website, with out any
> credit to the source? Jeezz isn't it something how you're guilty of
> doing all the things you accuse your detractors of doing?
>
>> None of these things are ever mentioned by Jiminex in his
>> oft-repeated, vulgar tirades and threats to destroy any newsgroup
>> where I participate should the members of that newsgroup fail to
>> comply with his demands. All of the above is documented and provable.
>
> Oh really?   Why don't you point us all in the direction of any other
> Newsgroup that I've tried to disrupt? You stupid ass. I don't even
> PARTICIPATE in any other Newgroup. And part of the reason I DON'T
> participate in CHA ....... IS BECAUSE YOU ARE THERE!
>
> Well Gooooooooly! looks like you got caught in another lie about
> someone who simply dislikes a social deviant, such as you.
>
> There IS one thing that you ARE right about though. You will NEVER
> **** EVER **** get away with your deliberate disruption in ASA, with
> out me being there to rub your nose in the crap that you leave behind.
>
>
>
>
>>  Unfortunately, the people who did
>> these things are mostly indigent, blue collar installers without
>> sufficient assets to merit a lawsuit.
>
> Ahhhh, your ego is showing again. Exactly how would you know that? You
> don't know who most of these people are or who they are, and you don't
> even have a clue as to who or even .... *where* ........ I am, what I
> have or don't have. So  ..... can we simply classify your above
> comment as another tactic of yours to cast an insult, by insinuating
> that anyone who opposes your vile conduct is "mearly" a blue collar
> worker with little or no intelligence or ability to earn a living?
> Kind of subtle unless someone knows that this is just your way to
> classify people as being beneath you. Rather an obvious subtlety
> though.
>
>
>>
>> Add to this vile behavior the fact that these individuals provide
>> almost nothing of value to any of the newsgroups they have attempted
>> to destroy.
>
> And of course you are the ultimate judge of who contributes and what
> it's value is ........ SHHHHUUUURE you are!
>
> Do you post more than anyone else in ASA. Yeah, I'd have to say that
> you probably do. However, YOU sit on your fat ass all day long,
> sitting at the computer. Your job and motivation is, you want to sell
> something to someone. The rest of the participants are installers and
> work their companies during the day and participate in ASA in spare
> time and evenings. Duhhhhhh. So what's the guage that you use to
> determine who contributes what? For the number of hours a day that
> participants are here, compared to you, I'd have to say it pretty
> much evens it's self out. But of course you're going to say that the
> "quality" of your post is better than everyone elses. Yeh, we know,
> ......... you know all about the ....... uhhh .......... uhhhh......
> all about the uhhhhh ....things you USED to install. What's the
> latest revision of the Napco 9600 contain? Did you ever figure out
> what the Napco wireless changes were. Oppps ....... that's right, you
> don't know. How about how the access control works on the Napco
> products? Come on ...... you're the Napco expert .......... how come
> you can't answer the questions about your ..... (so called) area of
> expertise? Yep, you sure know alot about alarms .......... from about
> 10 years ago.
>
> You're a phony and a liar and you know it. Trying to convince end
> users that you know alot about alarms. But you can't stop lying about
> the fact that you haven't installed anything for years and have
> little or no knowledge about the product you sell or even the
> products that you claim to be an expert in. Not only are you a
> Has-been ...... you're a Never-was. With all of the lies and
> underhanded things you've pulled here, it can only be an indication
> of what kind of business you ran and what little knowledge and
> credibily you had.
>
>> For my part, I don't deny having a bit of a temper.  There are times
>> when I've posted some rather stinging retorts, but nothing like what
>> these
>
>> belligerant bullies have done.
>
> Now let's see ...........
>
> Well, on second thought, I guess I won't fill up CHA with anymore of
> the tripe that your past deeds consist of ....... I'd guess that by
> now, they pretty much know what you are and if nothing eles, will
> simply be careful of you. Which I hope that is the least that all of
> this has accomplished.  So I'll simply respond to your above lie with
> ............the best appropriate word I can think of
> .......................... Bullshit!
>
> You'd do best to stop cross posting.
>
> Only You have something to lose.
>
> Do you think you've lost any credibility with this round of cross
> posting.
>
> You'll *really* never know ..... but.............
>
> And just think .......... you have the ability to stop it all .......
> and you just ...wont.   TUT TUT TUT