Re: Access Control Project with a Twist

[Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>]

On 2/24/2020 5:09 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
> On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 9:14:37 PM UTC-5, ABLE1 wrote:
>> On 2/23/2020 7:56 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
>>> On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 7:52:27 PM UTC-5, Jim Davis wrote:>
>>>> Hi Les
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, You can use this
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/3-Pack-Sonoff-Switch-Wireless-Control/dp/B075CC9J2W/ref=asc_df_B075CC9J2W/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=216539147262&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=164658497865770392&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004493&hvtargid=pla-366187523745&psc=1
>>>>
>>>> to control This
>>>> https://www.altronix.com/library/pdf/installation_instructions/6062.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Since the internet relay doesn't have a momentary function, when you activate the relay, a change in state trips the altronix relay which you set the timer to open a contact for a specified period of time to deactivate the mag lock.
>>>>
>>>> This might cause some confusion because sometime the internet relay will be in the off state and sometime it will be in the on state depending upon how the last user left it. But ----- you will have to determine how smart your customer is to explain this to.
>>>
>>> By the way Les, I've never done this before. It's just something I've thought about and searched for. You can investigate it further. You may come up with a better idea
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Jim,
>>
>> I can see how that might work one time but then again becomes a
>> big question.  I am sure I can jury rig something that would
>> maybe do the job.  But I seriously don't want to sell it and
>> put my name on it.
>>
>> What I was hoping is that there was a access control system that
>> would have this kind of feature built in to a control app.
>>
>> It was mentioned to me today that Alarm.com has a Access Control
>> package of some sort that might do it.  Something I need to
>> investigate further.
>>
>> BTW I just loaded the app on my phone to take a look.
>> Just reading the service agreement and privacy policy
>> is a bit.......................  Well let's just say
>> I cancelled and deleted the app.  I actually have
>> no need for it at this time so what would be the point.
>>
>> I do see the possibilities for experimenting and such.
>> But not for this project.
>>
>> Again thanks for the interesting input.
>>
>> Les
>
> I called ADI Tech assistance and they said that the only non-cloud system controllable with an app that they knew of was Paxton.
>
> I told them the job requirements and they said they would send me a quote. Get this now, --------- so for 4 doors the cost was over $4,000.00 ! ! ! !
> Wadayakidinme !!!!!!
>
> What customer is going to pay that ---- plus labor for a four door access control system?
>
> Unfreekinbelievable ! ! !
>


Its been a while since I installed any new access control, but that's
probably only a little high.  I used to estimate $2k per door when ball
parking to see if a customer had the budget to work up an actual quote.
Of course that was $2K installed.  Not $2K in hardware.  Most was a
little less, but high security, with redundancy, anti pass back, etc
sometimes cost more.  Specialty doors, adding structure to support
controllable locking hardware and other piddly ass details often bumped
that up a little more.  Little things like welding a handle on a gate I
just threw in, but cutting a gate apart and welding in a box to mount a
strike, and doing the same for the lockset takes some time.  Of course
if they have a panic bar then you have to add screen or sheet to prevent
reach through.  Its not hard for access control to cost a lot eve if you
have a modest hourly rate.