Re: DSC Neo

[Jim Davis <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 12:04:17 AM UTC-5, mleuck wrote:
> > > Few companies want someone else making communicators for their panels=
, GE allowed Alarm.com access to their bus for the Simon and Concord but th=
ey reverse engineered Honeywell.
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> > > I've tested iPDatatel and it functions but the interface in my opinio=
n is too primitive and they don't go very far with anything else
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> > > Just an opinion
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> > Just a note to everyone:
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> > I ended up giving the account away =E2=80=A6 back to the original insta=
ller.
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> > Once I found out the system was programmed and set up to communicate wi=
th alarm dot com. I considered what I would have to do to de-program it and=
 re-program it to work with the Napco IBridge, And although Napco says it w=
ill work with DSC they also throw some "disclaimers" in the installation in=
structions about some of the things that can't be done and that some of the=
 functions that can be attained when using Napco panels can't be used with =
DSC panels.=20
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> > Rather than having to take the time to learn the programming, the diffe=
rences and quirks associated with DSC and the integration of the IBridge  =
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6. just for this one job =E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6. I determined it was not worth all the time and effort. And anyway, 6 m=
onths from now, if I had to make some changes or do some troubleshooting I =
wouldn't remember half of what I would have had to learn to take over the j=
ob and I'd have to put in MORE time just to make a few bucks a month.=20
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> > I hate to lose a long time client but it's jus not worth the time, effo=
rt and expense.
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> > However, I did get the new owner of their old home .. so I really didn'=
t lose an account.
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> > Just didn't gain a new one.
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> > Thanks for the input though.
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> 1. It may have an Alarm.com communicator but it isn't programmed for Alar=
m.com, that's handled by the communicator itself, reprogramming the Neo com=
municator can send it anywhere else allowing Telguard, Uplink or whatever

To make the Napco control panel compatable with the IBridge it requires tha=
t a number of items be programed to obtain full usage of the capabilities o=
f each device. Such as opening and closing signals, user information, the c=
ommunicator ID number, and so on. I'm sure there must be some items in the =
DSC panel that need to be programmed to make the most of the features of th=
e panel with Alarm dot com. Those would have to be de-programmed. And I'd h=
ave to discover what they all were, de-program them, and then find what pro=
grammable items were required and if they were available to make the panel =
compatible with the IBridge.=20



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> 2. Unless you told IpDatatel you were dealing with a Neo panel I doubt th=
e communicator would be compatible unless it's dialer capture. Usually when=
 companies specify DSC compatibility they mean older panels like the PC1555=
, 5010, 1632 etc not the Neo

I don't use IPDatatel

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> 3. Had you tackled the Neo you open yourself up to being able to program =
ANY other DSC panel which might be beneficial in the future but it's your c=
all

That's an important point as I would NEVER actually install a product I con=
sider as being no better than a piece of compressed mud housed in a tin can=
 such as DSC. Cheaply designed and depends highly on end user purchases to =
remain profitable. Napco has been my choice of equipment for decades. It ha=
s been a reliable and long lasting product. And if it has never (in your op=
inion) done anything right in it's long history, the advent and huge succes=
s of the Starlink radio Burg and Fire and IBridge Connect has overshadowed =
most of their competition as of late.

Also, what the hell is going on with Monotronics? Has it lost it's way or w=
hat? What's with the Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra (It's and Irish lullaby) name cha=
nge then a buy-out =E2=80=A6 and now what? another name change? Looks like =
it's trying to hide it's identity or something the way Apex/Vivint did to h=
ide it's past indiscretions.  (???)