Re: ADT SPAM I got today

["doug" <vssdoug@xxxxxxxxx>]

<kenbig@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sunday, October 14, 2001 at 10:55:53 PM UTC-4, Tom Fowler wrote:
>> Subject: Re: ADT SPAM I got today
>> Date: 10/14/01 1:55 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>> Message-id: <3bc9fb32.156616378@news>
>>
>> tfowler1969@xxxxxxx (Tom Fowler) wrote:
>>
>> >WHY?
>>
>> >Because I hate spam.<
>>
>> You weren't the recipient.
>>
>> >Because I'd like to ask ADT dealer management whether or not they
>> condone spam.<
>>
>>  The ADT dealer can send that ad if he or she so chooses. When Steve
>> Gribbon
>> tells you that the ad was written by ADT will you still be upset? The ad
>> was
>> written by ADT. It's a standard internet ad right from the playbook.
>>
>> >Because what dealers do may indirectly affect me.<
>>
>> How? You deal with large commercial jobs. I doubt the owner of a business
>> will
>> be turned off because an ADT dealer sent an ad via e-mail. You're
>> stretching
>> John.
>> Maybe when the employees of the branch stop thinking of authorized
>> dealers as
>> being lower on the food chain the branch will be able to focus on their
>> own
>> dirty laundry and not have to sub the work out to the same dealers they
>> ridicule.
>>
>> >Because I can.<
>>
>> So you will try to prevent an ADT dealer from promoting his or her
>> business
>> even though those same deals they would procure would DIRECTLY benefit
>> ADT?
>>
>> >Because the sky's blue.<
>>
>> Battleship grey here today.
>>
>> >Enough reasons for you?<
>>
>> You summed it up pretty good.
>>
>> >ADT's corporate email policy specifically
>> prohibits spam.<
>>
>> Dealers are NOT corporate and DON'T have to run their business by
>> corporate's
>> guidlines.
>>
>> > As someone who relies on email to communicate with my
>> customers, I have a vested interest in ADT's policies regarding the
>> use of electronic media.<
>>
>> That's nice. It's an authorized dealer advertising and NOT ADT. You also
>> have a
>> vested interest in ADT's bottom line. The dealer has a vested interest in
>> his
>> ad. If Steve Gribbon thought e-mail ads would hurt ADT you can bet he
>> wouldn't
>> have signed off on them. Good luck getting him on the phone John.
>> I wasn't flaming you John and I wasn't replying with sarcasm. I think it
>> would
>> be nice if the employees of ADT stopped acting as if the dealers were the
>> enemy.
>>
>> Tom

>Here you go Tom, I get email spam from one of your dealers everyday, every
>friggin day. How would you like it if I came over to your house >every day
>and knocked on your door and tried to sell you something? Better yet since
>you like this free for all how would you like it if I called >you every day
>too?
>And how about if I stop you on the street and badgered you? You don't get
>the point do you? The point is once is enough to be told there is >no
>interest. Besides do you really want to try to sell your crap to someone
>who adamantly does not want your product and has told your >reps
>approaching a hundred times that they are not wanted or appreciated. Why
>don't you post your email address and phone number so >hundreds of people
>can contact you daily, maybe then you would get a clue.


13 years seems like a long time to harbor a grudge about spam