Re: Arizona Registrar of Contractors Rule Changes Effective July 1, 2014

["Bob La Londe" <none@xxxxxxxxxx>]

"JoeRaisin" <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On 5/10/2014 11:35 AM, Jim Rojas wrote:
>>
>> My answer is to require all city & state inspectors to be former or
>> present day contractors in their respective fields...then you might see
>> some real eye opening changes out there.
>>
>
> That solution has it's own problems.
>
> Positions like that can attract those loudmouth lazy types - you know, the
> ones who are quick to tell you how much they know, how wonderful they are,
> and what great work they do.
>
> Yet every panel they've done is a rat's nest and they are the type who
> will stare at a problem for an hour trying to devise a solution that
> doesn't require taking a ladder off the truck.
>
> Now you might think, 'fine, get the bastard out of the field so he can
> stop leaving a string of turds behind him that others are expected to
> fix.'  However, you just know that's the guy who (unless he wants to be
> your friend) will nit-pick your work ten ways from Sunday.
>
> And, yeah, a big reason for his career change was not having to re-qualify
> every few years...
>
>
>> Meanwhile, elevator & escalator inspections are done every 5 years at
>> best, building contractors continue to build substandard houses, and the
>> city & state inspectors that are suppose to make sure that everything is
>> done to code turn a blind eye because they have no money to make sure
>> everyone is compliant...more sad times for America...
>>
>> I use to charge $150 to inspect any Daycare, Assisted Living Facilities,
>> etc...Every year I did about 250 inspections. My price never changed for
>> 12 years. Now these same facilities are forced to pay $1500+ for a lousy
>> 1 hour inspection...what a @#$%ed up and corrupt system our government
>> we have now.
>>
>>
>
> I think you're spot on.  These types of laws and regs, just like most laws
> and regs, are written by the rich elites to benefit the rich elites.
>
> I mean - how can the big guy with a hundred trucks going to buy that new,
> bigger boat charging only a $150 for an inspection?  Now that he's driven
> the little guys out, he can make a ton of money sending out some poorly
> trained tech for 10 bucks and hour who, at the very least, can fill out
> the forms...

That's a huge post, but for just my license classifications there is some
funny business I think.  For me if I stay on top of it, I might save a
little, but...

I have two licenses currently.  An L-67 Commercial Low Voltage and a C-12
Residential Low Voltage.  Both of my licenses will be converted to a CR-67.
I will have two license for the exact same thing.  They won't automatically
cancel one either.  I have to remember to send them a written concellation.
Also, if I don't cancell my license and just don't pay it they will give me
a nasty mark on my record for having my license suspended.

Ok...  Sounds a little stupid, but not particularly onerous.  If I remember
to send in my cancellation I'll save some money right?  Also only need one
license bond that way right? Well, since I am a dual licensee maybe, but the
for somebody who only did commercial work before their fees be a lot higher.

My last renewal:
Commercial $490
Residential $240
Mandatory BRIBE $300 (Only applies to residential contractors.)

Next Renewal:
Commercial and Residential $380
Mandatory BRIBE $370 (Applies to both commercial and residential.)

For me that will be a net savings, but for the guy who only does commercial
that's a pretty big jump.  My net savings won't be as big as the math above
indicates though.  They are raising the required bond amount which will
increase my bond insurance rate.  Also, because it now encompasses a greater
scope of work for each bond the risk will probably be rated higher.

Its also a pretty steep increase for the guy only did residential before.

And yes I know other companies who ONLY do one or the other.

Personally I hate the "like other states" language.  If I wanted to live in
another state I would f'king move there.  Geez.

--
Bob La Londe
The Security Consultant

Licenses
ROC103044 & RCO103047