My problem with back-up radios

[Jim <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

I've had this long time question about the turn in the evolution of back-up=
 radios.

The question is .......... what ever happened to redundancy?

I have a real problem with the fact that nobody (installers and manufacture=
rs) has any problem with the lack of redundancy reporting of back-communica=
tion devices in the "newer" equipment now available.

How can it be alright to have a device (radio/cellular) installed on an ala=
rm installation that is supposedly sold to the client that has a higher con=
cern for the integrity of communication ..... a device that could possibly =
sit there for the next 5 years or longer (if there is no telephone failure =
followed by an alarm condition) and never be tested to send an alarm signal=
 to central station?

I just don't get it ... why no one has a problem with this.

Am I missing something? Doesn't it seem more resonable to have a wireless d=
evice that sends an alarm code at the same time as the land line communicat=
or? Is it just something that the manufacturers and wireless service provid=
ers have promoted to cut down on the tower traffic in spite of the fact tha=
t it doesn't actually qualify to serve the true essance of a back up commun=
ication device? Rather favoring benifits to them over the greater good of p=
roviding better insurance to the customer.=20

Does anyone else have a problem with this? Anyone know of a wireless full d=
ata transmission device that will provide redundancy reporting? I don't kno=
w about other panels but Napco has a dual reporting feature. Most panels ha=
ve backup reporting. It would seem to me that there should be some way to t=
ake advantage of this to be able to provide full data reporting. Or ..... s=
ome way for the wireless communication device to "listen in during land lin=
e reporting and send a simultanious radio transmission. On Napco panels I c=
an program it to not wait for hand shake. I don't know about other panels.=
=20

I know,.... I know, ....they send in their daily/weekly supervisory signal =
... I don't know about you, but to me ...  that's NOT and alarm signal and =
isn't proof enough for me that it will really send an alarm signal when the=
 time comes. And I know that there are non-full data radios that will send =
redundant signals. I just think that full data radios should send them also=
.=20

But, ... even with other panels lacking all of the above capability, I thin=
k I have a kind of klugy way to provide redundancy on these "non redundant"=
 full data devices, but I'll wait for replies to this post before I pass it=
 by everyone.=20