Re: NFPA trying to revive 730-731 as code

[Bill <Nomailorspam@xxxxxxxxx>]

In article <1d171df7-e308-4b0b-a66b-1fd4e5ec266f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
nmarkowitz@xxxxxxxxx says...
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> http://www.securityinfowatch.com/article/10811560/nfpa-creates-new-security-controversy
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> The fuckheads at Not For Practical Application otherwise known as NFPA are at it again when are they going to get it that no one wants this and AHJ want nothing to do with it.


Well first of all, they need to get feedback from security system
CUSTOMERS on this idea!

Some of them would have a royal shit fit at providing any sort of wiring
diagrams of their security systems for "approval" to any sort of
inspector! Or having people without security clearances or some sort of
security background check come in and "inspect" their security systems.

There is the security concept of "need to know". That is the FEWER
people who know about certain security arrangements, the better.

Some customers don't want any wiring diagrams to exist of their systems
or certain portions of their systems. And may only approve one security
company employee to install and know about certain things. And they
don't want that employee even to inform his management about these
things. Billing just states time and materials - no details of work
done.

So nothing in writing or diagrams about the work exists at the private
security system company - that is the way "certain" customers want it.

Also you have just the customer's security chief and the one security
company employee who know about this stuff. Very GOOD security! This
adds a level of security.

Then also there are "custom alarm systems". The control units are one of
a kind. You can't buy one anywhere. So that also limits the number of
people who would know how it works. A higher level of security.

And the wiring used for certain areas or to certain devices may be other
than traditional "alarm wiring". Wiring which is commonly used for
anything else will do the trick. Or alarm wiring run in conduit can have
the conduit intentionally mislabeled - say HVAC or whatever. I can see a
local electrical inspector coming in and saying "You can't do that!"

Certain customers want/need that level of security and do not want the
whole world to know about it!