Re: DSC 1555MX and PC1616 in alarm

[Frank Kurz <tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 11/03/2012 7:40 PM, E DAWSON wrote:
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> On Mar 11, 8:58 pm, Frank Kurz<t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>> On 11/03/2012 4:40 PM, E DAWSON wrote:
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>>> "nick mark59"<nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote in message
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>>>> On Sunday, March 11, 2012 4:07:57 PM UTC-4, E DAWSON wrote:
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>>>>>> On Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:03:35 PM UTC-4, E DAWSON wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
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>>>>>>> First time posting ever.
>>>>>>> I have 1555MX&  PC1616 both in alarm state.
>>>>>>> Prior owners lost home to bank...no codes available.
>>>>>>> Is there any way to recover them?
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>>>>>>> Thanks so much for any help.
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>>>>>> nope need to default and reprogram panels
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>>>>> Both boards have installer lockout enabled.
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>>>> your shit out of luck either replace boards or use a service like Jim
>>>> Rojas provides which unlocks themwww.tech-man.com
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>>> Thanks for trying and sorry you could not help me.
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>>> Is there a way to log into a DSC when it is in alarm using software? I
>>> do
>>> know how to get into GE Networx in any armed state using software
>>> without
>>> knowing any codes at all. I am looking for information from someone who
>>> knows specifically about DSC and has had much experience with those
>>> boards.
>>> Thanks again.
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>> If the board is locked out, and it has been previously downloaded by the
>> original installation company, then you won't be able to log into the
>> panel with the downloading access ID code. As the man said previously,
>> you're SOL. Jim Rojas provides a board unlocking service. You should
>> contact him through his website atwww.tech-man.com. If you can contact
>> the installation company, they may be able to unlock the board for you
>> (for a fee). Chances are they'll want to sign you up for monitoring at
>> the same time. Unless you have the installer code, you will NOT be able
>> to enter board level programming.
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>> The one thing you should confirm is whether or not the board IS actually
>> locked. Power down the system first (remove AC and battery). Wait for
>> thirty seconds. Plug the battery back in then plug in the wallwart. If
>> you hear the telco relay clicking several times, this means the board is
>> locked. If you don't, you will be able to default it and program it
>> from scratch. If you need the programming manual, shoot me a quick
>> email or call the toll-free number on my website and I'll send it to you.
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>> Good luck!!
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>> --
>> Frank Kurzwww.firetechs.net
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> RHC; Frank, Jim cannot unlock the DSC 1616 series boards either. We
> work together to some degree and I would know right up front if he had
> found a way to do this.
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> Good point though about making sure it is unlocked !! Many not really
> familiar with alarm boards could easily confuse simply changing the
> installer code (which is normal) with locking the board (which is
> quite different)...
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> If I know how to get into any Networx panel in alarm state without knowing
> the download code or installer code, is it possible to do the same thing on
> a DSC the same way that I do on a Networx without getting into how it is
> done in these posts? I was trying to find out before I install all the
> software needed to get into a DSC and learn it as well. I guess this is a
> question for those who know what I am talking about. It would be helpful for
> the 1555MX at least. I should have mentioned that I do work in the industry
> beforehand.
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You can access the panel while it's armed and in the alarm state, but
you'll need the remote access ID code.  If you DON'T have that I suppose
you could try the default code, but chances are it's been changed too
(particularly if the panel IS locked out).  Your best bet (in that case)
is to spend $80.00 and buy a new board.  I was going to suggest spending
about $30.00 more and getting the Power 864 board but please make sure
your enclosure is the "large" one.  I recently observed an alarm company
installing a PC1616 in one of the dinkiest cans I've ever seen (I swear
it was about the width of the common control board.  The biggest battery
he could fit was a 4.5 AH and then he wound up literally STUFFING the
wire into the box and forcing the door closed.  I suppose you could call
it an "alarm force" job.  I pity the guy that unscrews the door to
change the battery.  "Sproing!"

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Frank Kurz
www.firetechs.net