Re: Left or right? How to determine?

["RockyTSquirrel" <gafa_usa@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

We use the compass directions,  north room,  south room,  SE room  SSE room
etc...

But when we have to use left or right, front or back,  we always use,
looking at the house from the roadway approach..
that will be the starting point  and branch off from that to other parts of
the building..

RTS


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<chasbo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Left side? Right side? How to determine?
>
> Have a customer whose house is large.  On his Keypad I provided a
> location description for two smoke detectors.  One description is "SD
> left frnt bed" There is another detector labeled as "SD rght frnt bed"
>
> Due to the 16 character limitation this is the best I could do for
> describing the left front bedroom and the right front bedroom.
>
> After testing these units a year or so after installation, I verified
> the tripped location with the description on the Keypad, and was
> immediately confused by the references to left and right, so much so
> that I made a note to this effect on the service call sheet.
>
> I ran across this note today, and have begun in earnest to find an
> answer to this puzzle:
>
> How do I determine, for example, which side of the house is
> the left side of the house?  Is the left side of the house on
> my left as I stand outside facing and looking at the front of
>  the  house?  Or is the left side of the house on my left side
> as I stand inside looking out the front door?
>
> I posed this question to my son-in-law who is a builder. I also posed
> it to a customer who is an architect.  I did not receive an answer
> from either of them that showed conclusively that their trades
> followed a definitive protocol.  The three of us gave varying
> examples, all of which were based on the location of the viewer, be it
> a fireman, policeman, builder, architect, home owner, etc.
>
> This is an important matter to me, as I need to know how to identify a
> location using the terms left and right in conjunction with front and
> rear.  The three of us were in agreement with the use of the
> adjectives "east and west."  However buildings are not always placed
> on a north/south/east/west plane.  Furthermore, responding authorities
> may not know where North is, especially when arriving at night, having
> made a number of vehicular turns on the way to the fire.
>
> Here are a few examples (you may have more) of determining left from
> right, based on usage and position of the viewer:
>
> If I told you to put air in the left front automobile tire,
> you would know exactly where to go regardless of where you
> were standing when I gave the directive.
>
> If you were a seaman and I told you to paint the right side of
> the boat you would know exactly which side to paint, because
> the right side of the boat is the starboard side, which is
> always on the right side as you look towards the bow from
> midship.  The right (starboard) is always in the same
> location regardless of where you are standing, aft, forward,
> on the pier, in another boat, etc.
>
> In buses, trains, planes, the left (and consequently the
> right) is easily determined when you know where the front is,
> or where the back is.
>
> I have not researched how theatrical stages are labeled; however the
> terms "stage right" and "stage left" are in use, but I do not know if
> it means the audiences right or left or the actors right or left when
> facing the audience.
>
> Without going much further I think you all get the gist of what I am
> looking for.
>
> Do buildings really have a left side and a right side?  Is the
> viewer's position the determining factor? Buildings always appear to
> have a front and rear, and sometimes sides.
>
> Should the left and right of a building always be predicated on and in
> the same manner that is used to locate left and right on a car, plane,
> train, boat, skies, bicycle, motorcycle, etc., that is, facing forward
> from within or on the device?  In these examples the front is easily
> found, and consequently we can therefore apply the labels left, right,
> rear.  Why not with a house? From inside the house at the front door
> facing out the door I want all to know that the left side of the house
> is on my left.  Agree?
>
> So as not to add to the confusion here, please do not use the word
> "right" for the word "correct."
>
> Have fun.
>
> Charlie


Ok, I be the first to bite on this.

I think it is a matter of to whom you are trying to direct.  Such as
the home owner to whit you would be better off applying the words as
Mary's BDRM SMK or John's BDRM SMK, etc. etc.

As for dispatching purposes it would be best to use the term Left
Front 2nd Fl Smoke.  You are not restricted to 16 characters.  And
because when the Fire Dept. arrives they will be looking at the
house from the Front and will know it is going to be the Left Side
looking at the house.

So, your challenge is now much simpler and I can sleep tonight
knowing I have helped someone named Charlie.

Les