Re: What the future holds for ASA

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On Monday, April 11, 2011 11:47:25 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
> On Apr 11, 10:22=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Apr 11, 12:36=A0am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 10, 11:31=A0pm, SRyckman <nevets...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 10, 6:55=A0pm, G. Morgan <usenet_ab...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > Maybe Mr. Ryckman will consider adding a "Pro's Only" sub-forum?
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> > > > Not right away because the verification process would need to be
> > > > decided. =A0 Does providing an email address or web URL with a comp=
any
> > > > related page qualify? =A0 Do they have to be a licensed company in =
their
> > > > home state? =A0 =A0What about technicians of a company, do we call =
for
> > > > employment verification? =A0 Who does this verification process?
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> > > To me, it's obviously to complicated to be managed properly. It seems
> > > (from this vantage point .... now) that even if managing it was
> > > successful initially, that eventually it would become to unwieldy. It
> > > would be reason to cause conflict between the veified and the non-
> > > verified. There would be people who change jobs and people with an ax
> > > of some sort to grind starting false rumors and acusations of who is
> > > telling the truth and who's not, would =A0no doubt abound.
> >
> > > Steve is this new "group" being moderated (?) and if so .... by who?
> >
> > > You'll have to excuse me. I've avoided this whole Facebook thing for
> > > want of better things to do with my life. I don't know if I will
> > > participate or not but I would like to see what becomes of it. I'm
> > > trying to sign up for it now. Back when I first came to ASA, I was
> > > looking for something a lot different than what happend here so I
> > > would be interested in participating if it came close to what I first
> > > envisioned. If it doesn't ...... well ...... ASA just might have to
> > > do. It is better now than it was here and as long as there are
> > > participants =A0I'll hang out.
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> > > > As for the forum, if anyone doesn't want to participate in the foru=
m
> > > > then don't. =A0 =A0Everyone knows that what this world needs is mor=
e
> > > > people who are glad to cut down ideas rather than try to promote ou=
r
> > > > industry in a more civilized manner.
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> > > I'm curious about how control of this phenomena will be accomplished.
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> > RHC: I see no real worth in such things as Facebook and Twitter;
> > frankly, I don't want to know what other people had for breakfast. Nor
> > do I want to connect with strangers other than my customers locally.
> > People coming in to a Facebook security forum are going to be the
> > types that are strictly DIY types, or of the simple minded mind set
> > that believe companies such as Alarmforce (for one) are great
> > services. Dialoguing with them is a waste of time and energy
> > generally. Over the years this forum has been a great place to
> > dialogue with other professionals in the industry even though we have
> > at times disagreed on some things vehemently. Even though it has
> > become somewhat "sparse" of late, it's still worth being here. I see
> > little redeeming value in opening up a forum that will not involve
> > security professionals as it CORE participants.
> >
> > I personally plan =A0to stay in this forum and ignore moderated groups
> > entirely. Just my vote for what it's worth......-
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> I am of the same mind ...... regarding the "what I had for breakfast"
> thing .... but ..... I would like to at least give it a view .... to
> see where it might go. If it's moderated maybe some of the "bad"
> things you are presuming about it may be controllable. I don't know
> anything about Facebook or moderated groups ..... so ... taking a look
> is ...... ummm ... taking a look :-)   Could be alright
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> I just have to freekin figure out how to get in to look at the damn
> thing.......

Try this: http://www.integratedsecurityprofessionals.com/ it IS moderated s=
o there ARE "Controls" set in place to maintain a professional atmosphere, =
however, it IS intended for PROFESSIONALS ONLY. It's just getting off the g=
round so a lot of work has been done but a lot more to go in order for it t=
o be successful.