Re: surveillance for st tim's pre-school

[Uno <merrilljensen@xxxxx>]

On 11/14/2011 5:24 PM, nick markowitz wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2:08 pm, Jim<alarmi...@xxxxxxx>  wrote:
>> On Nov 14, 8:49 am, Uno<merrilljen...@xxxxx>  wrote:
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>>> On 11/14/2011 3:42 AM, JoeRaisin wrote:
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>>>> On 11/14/2011 3:38 AM, Uno wrote:
>>>>> Hello newsgroup,
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>>>>> Haven't read anything. Don't know much about the topic. I'm a handyman
>>>>> who implements things that other people tell me to do.
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>>>>> As a veteran of technical fora on usenet, I would like to claim an
>>>>> exception to the unrealistic maxim that I must do a bunch of reading of
>>>>> this particular forum before I post. That isn't realistic for my ability
>>>>> to look at a screen now.
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>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPm8FEtYVg&feature=related
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>>>>> This is a walk-through. As far as other security clearances go, the labs
>>>>> are well-represented and forcing me to confront this, the air force is
>>>>> also almost endemic, and casey is on the case.
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>>>>> Peace. Love. 1.732,
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>>>> I think my meds wore off during that last paragraph.
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>>>> Everything suddenly got disjointed and surreal...
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>>> There are aspects of this inquiry which I regard as surreal but couldn't
>>> say for certain without the cameras and data that I'm looking for.
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>>> 1.732 is the square root of three and also washington's birthday.
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>> I think that you don't realize what you are not going to be able to
>> see with just a few cameras.
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>> I'm presume that your objective is to identify and possibly prosecute
>> the intruders.
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>> As much as night viewing of cameras is advertised, unless you have
>> cameras that can give you a close up view of the intruders, all you
>> are going to have as a result of a relatively expensive investment is
>> recorded shadow views of unidentifiable people doing what ever it is
>> that they have been doing to your property. For facial indentification
>> you are going to need cameras that can give you close up views of the
>> intruders. Which means that the number of cameras needed is more than
>> you have indicated and the quality of lighting be much better.  For
>> instance, if you have one camera covering an entire parking lot, all
>> the objects in the parking lot are going to be very small relative to
>> to size of the screen you are viewing it on. You'll see a car and a
>> person but you will be very unlikely to identifiy them. And that's in
>> the daytime. Even if you get a camera with what is advertised as
>> "capable of seeing 100 feet" you can probably discount that claim by
>> 50% and even then you're only going to get a blury view a 50 feet at
>> night.
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>> That is not to say that there aren't cameras that can do what you want
>> them to do .... it's just that I don't think you want to pay $700.00
>> to over a thousand dollars per camera to do it and then start adding
>> in the recording equipment and installation labor.
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>> What I beleive the problem is nowdays, is that the layman thinks that
>> anything is possible when it comes to CCTV because of all these TV
>> programs that make people believe that they can see the license plate
>> number on a car, in the reflection of mirrored sunglasses, two blocks
>> away on a dark moonless night.
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>> I would suggest that you first try to find other physical means to
>> deter your intruders before you make a large investment in technology
>> that will likely give you very limited results. ...... OR ...... call
>> in a professional who might be better able to evaluate a solution with
>> an on site inpection. But ..... do your homework ..... there are lots
>> of cameras out there and don't let anyone sell you a bill of goods.
>> Ask for a demonstation of what your are going to be able to see.
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>> Good luck.
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> I second Jim on this .  he is correct what you want to accomplish is
> going to take considerable designing and funds.

thanks all for responses.  I'll try to sharpen up the specs.  The
technology is dizzying with innovation.

Peace.  Love.  St.  Tims,
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