Re: Who's blog is this ?? --- Security related

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jun 22, 9:07=A0am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 10:02=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Jun 20, 9:44=A0am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 19, 6:45=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 19, 1:18=A0pm, G. Morgan <G_Mor...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > G. Morgan Wrote:
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> > > > > >http://homesecurityalarminfo.blogspot.com/2011/01/2gig-technolog=
ies-g...
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> > > > > >Wednesday, January 5, 2011
> > > > > >2GIG Technologies Go Control Wireless tries to look high tech
> > > > > >I just stumbled across an article about someone (Who will remain
> > > > > >unnamed) within the security alarm industry and his move over to=
 2gig
> > > > > >technologies.
>
> > > > > Personal attack.
>
> > > > > >This prompted me to do a little research on the company.
> > > > > >It seems the gang over at APX are using it so it must be crap...=
 or at
> > > > > >least cheap.
>
> > > > > Company attack.
>
> > > > > >Cheap does not always mean bad so I looked a little further. Wel=
l, first
> > > > > >of all, the security alarm portion of the 2Gig Go Control system=
 is
> > > > > >completely wireless.
>
> > > > > Yes, but there's more to the story. =A0Hardwired zone modules can=
 be
> > > > > incorporated then re-sent over a wireless transceiver. =A0The mod=
ules have
> > > > > 8 zones a piece.
>
> > > > > >Not good touchscreen or not.
>
> > > > > What?
>
> > > > > >Looking a little further, 2Gig is touting the 2 gig technologies=
 Go
> > > > > >Control as a complete home automation system stating "Make any h=
ome a
> > > > > >smart home." I will be the first to admit smart home technology =
is
> > > > > >highly overpriced for what it is. The thing is, cheap Home Autom=
ation
> > > > > >"Solutions" such as the 2Gig Go Control bring back nightmares of=
 X-10
> > > > > >and what they were trying to do.
>
> > > > > It uses Z-Wave, not X-10, for automation devices.
>
> > > > > >So what is the 2Gig Go Control you ask. Well, from initial revie=
w, I see
> > > > > >it as nothing more than a souped up DSC Alexor, GE Simon, Parado=
x
> > > > > >Magellan, Alarmforce, Honeywell Lynx, Snif or any of the other w=
ireless
> > > > > >wannabe security alarm system pieces of trash.
>
> > > > > This is the entire technical review of the system?
>
> > > > > >I really wish the alarm
> > > > > >manufacturers would get a grip on reality and realise security a=
larms
> > > > > >are serious business. Security alarm systems are not toys, secur=
ity
> > > > > >alarm systems need to be able to withstand the attack of a poten=
tial
> > > > > >intruder. A transistor radio sized box mounted on the wall by th=
e front
> > > > > >door and containing the entire 'Brains' of your security system =
is not
> > > > > >real security. I don't care how fancy you make it and how many f=
unctions
> > > > > >it can do, this type of wireless 'security alarm system' is just=
 a
> > > > > >fancier toilet alarm. It just looks a little nicer before the wo=
uld be
> > > > > >intruder steps on it, rendering the 2gig technologies Go Control=
 home
> > > > > >automation security alarm control panel totally useless when com=
pared to
> > > > > >its' hardwired counterpart.
>
> > > > > Pure opinion and ranting. =A0This has nothing to do with a "revie=
w".
>
> > > > > >Sorry guys, I did take an honest look at the 2gig Go Control sec=
urity
> > > > > >alarm system and just do not like it, even with the cheesy littl=
e
> > > > > >touchscreen and online demo.
>
> > > > > I doubt you did. =A0You don't seem to know anything about it.
>
> > > > > > I will continue to stick to hardwired
> > > > > >security alarm systems as well as automation systems. When it co=
mes to
> > > > > >wireless and security alarm systems, I firmly believe it should =
only be
> > > > > >used for systems which much be portable as well as cellular
> > > > > >communications to the monitoring station. Of course, cellular
> > > > > >communications uses a completely different type of wireless. If =
this
> > > > > >technology was deployed in security alarm system sensors, they w=
ould be
> > > > > >financially out of reach for consumers. So to those mooks and bo=
neheads
> > > > > >who like to use cellular phones as a defence for wireless securi=
ty
> > > > > >systems... get a grip.
>
> > > > > "mooks and boneheads"?? =A0Tom?
>
> > > > > >Controlling lighting via wireless is not as bad, but that is onl=
y
> > > > > >because lighting does not tend to be mission critical. So what i=
f a
> > > > > >little interference stops your lights from being able to be remo=
tely
> > > > > >turned on. It is not as if you are relying on this function to c=
ontact
> > > > > >the fire department if your house catches on fire, or notify the=
 police
> > > > > >if you are being broken into.
>
> > > > > Again, opinion not related to the product "review".
>
> > > > RHC: Graham, I agree that this is clearly not an objective " review=
"';
> > > > however, if you poke around on his blog a bit, you'll see his heart=
 is
> > > > in the right place ! He outlines some of the scummy tactics used by
> > > > APX Alarms to sell, as well as some of the other more objectionable
> > > > tactics used in our industry (such as selling using the "fear
> > > > factor")
>
> > > > Dunno who he is, but he sounds like a small alarm dealer who has ha=
d a
> > > > gut full of the shady side of our business and has just gone on a
> > > > rant.....-
>
> > > Hmmmmm
>
> > > Where were YOU when this was being written?
>
> > RHC: =A0Wasn't me....honest injin....I'm innocent as the day is
> > long......
>
> Well, leave it to you to be vague.
>
> As of yesterday June 21, the days begin to get shorter.
>
> > Can't say I disagree with him though on a lot of what he says, even
> > though he hasn't backed anything up except for his personal
> > opinions....-
>
> Occasionally I think about starting a blog but I know it would consume
> too much of my time. I can't stand being wrong so I'd spend all my
> time doing research just so someone couldn't say that about me.
>
> It's such a burden being right all the time. (Sigh!)

RHC: Vague ? I dont comment further because I can't back up what I say
as fact, since I have no experience with these types of alarms.  As
far as feelings go, just like Nick, I don't like the all - in - one
systems, or for that matter, the new technologies that can't decide
whether they want to be a mediocre home automation system or a
mediocre alarm system ! I can give clients largely the same things
using conventional professional quality alarm systems (albeit with
expensive add ons..)  As it is,  I give my clients top notch physical
and electronic security - period ! If they are attracted to these new
breeds of "whoopy shit" systems, that's their choice. As far as I can
see, these are largely the domain of the "contract monkeys",  and
clients like this I am not targeted towards (even though many of my
clients work in high tech)

And...yeah...blogs are like the social media sites. I don't care what
people had for breakfast, or when they had their last bowel movement,
so I choose not to participate. Nor do I think I am missing much.
Besides, no one wants to know what my last USPSA / IPSCscores were, or
where I went on my motorcycle, so what's the use...

Call me "old school" and you'd be correct....