Re: Automatic fire sprinklers

[nick markowitz <nmarkowitz@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jan 10, 4:38=A0pm, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 2:41=A0pm, Evan <evan.news.re...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Jan 10, 1:10=A0pm, "k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
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> > <k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:23:30 -0800 (PST), jamesgangnc <jamesgan...@gm=
ail.com>
> > > wrote:
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> > > >On Jan 10, 8:25=A0am, "Techvoid" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >> "Dean Hoffman" <dh0496@in#&ebr^as^#ka.com> wrote in message
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> > > >>news:igeu4d$b7k$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > >> > =A0are now required in new Pennsylvania homes:
> > > >> >http://tinyurl.com/323syvr
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> > > >> good idea?
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> > > >It's not as expensive as it used to be. =A0There is a cpvc pipe that=
 can
> > > >be used for sprinklers. =A0I don't think it's actually different, I
> > > >think they just made it orange. =A0But I'm not sure. =A0I got 8 spri=
nkler
> > > >heads to put in the garage I'm building out at our lake house. =A0Pi=
cked
> > > >them up on ebay for about $5 apiece. =A0Idea came to me after some o=
f
> > > >our friends almost burned down their house with a garage fire.
> > > >Happened while they were at home and they didn't know it until the
> > > >neighbor called them. =A0By then flames were rolling up the outside
> > > >wall. =A0$100k+ in damages and it barely got out of the garage into =
the
> > > >living space above before the fire dept put it out.
>
> > > >I think you could do a whole house for a couple hundred in materials=
.
> > > >Not sure how much additional plumber labor but I would think you cou=
ld
> > > >keep it under a grand total. =A0My grandparents house in missisppi b=
uilt
> > > >in the 1920's had sprinklers located in on the ceiling in front of
> > > >each fireplace hearth. =A0Since there was a fireplace in every room =
it
> > > >amounted to a whole house sprinkler system.
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> > > Sounds like just more pipes to burst, particularly in a second home. =
=A0More
> > > nannyism for the government. =A0
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> > LOL... =A0Sounds like you think you are in an area where public safety
> > budgets have not been cut yet... =A0It is either raise tax rates even
> > more
> > or start cutting even on the essential services like police and
> > fire...
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> > If it takes more than 5 minutes for the fire department to respond to
> > your structure after calling 911, then a properly designed sprinkler
> > system will save lives as well as prevent serious damage to your
> > building...
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> > Now realize that you might not become aware of a fire in your home
> > if it is on another floor or in an isolated room like a garage or
> > basement
> > until it flashes over... =A0If you are *just* calling the fire
> > department at
> > that point you will have a $100k loss to deal with...
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> > If you are concerned about the water freezing in your sprinkler system
> > there are dry sprinkler systems which keep the water out of the piping
> > until a head pops and the air pressure is released opening the wet
> > valve and allowing water to flow to the sprinkler heads...
>
> > Such systems are installed everywhere in commercial buildings where
> > there is a large enough overhang or covered exterior area close to the
> > building which requires protection because of its use or its location
> > on
> > an egress path which must be protected...
>
> > ~~ Evan
>
> Unfortunately dry systems can be a pain in the ass to maintain they
> have drum drips which must be emptied at least monthly or you risk
> them freezing as well.
> pcv does not sweat as much but the drums must be kept empty to prevent
> problems.

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