Re: Wireless system thoughts, please read and reply

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"Bill" <billnomailnospamx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> An answer to your question is to look at automotive computers and how they
> work internally. Or to look at the "programming" for a computer in a car.
>
> You will not find this information! Period!
>
> Why? Because it costs companies tons of money to develop this stuff and
> they don't want their competitors to copy their designs.
>
> That is the nature of the electronics industry.
>
> Then many technicians in the field - automotive, electronics, appliances,
> whatever... are not software engineers. For repair, knowing just how to
> replace an entire faulty circuit board takes a LOT less training than
> hiring tons of people who are "software engineers" or "electrical
> engineers". Plus you can't find enough of these people even if you could
> pay them and did try to find them.
>
> Anyway there is no need for field technicians to know more about an
> electronic product other than to determine if a circuit board or component
> is working or not. Then if not working, they replace the circuit board /
> part.
>
> Now add to this the field of security. The idea is to not advertise how
> these things work. Also to make them work differently from model to model.
> And to make them work "randomly" and not in any predictable way.
>
> So *nothing* is going to be "the same" in the field of security. You will
> find that some manufacturers intentionally design things differently.
>
> So for every product which works one way, you will find many others which
> work differently.
>
> Same with wire colors used. In some cases all the wires are the same
> color. This is intentional so no one knows what wire is what.
>
> And you certainly are NOT going to find a "security system wire color code
> standard" anywhere!
>
> And that is the idea. No idea what is installed where or how exactly it
> works.
>
> FYI - Look at another field. Home heating systems or home central vacuum
> systems and the wire colors they use. What color wire is for what? No
> telling is the answer! Whatever colors the technician or do-it-yourself
> installer decided to use. And that has no need for security, just the way
> things are.
>
> Now add to all that the personality and culture of security people. For
> some situations you sign all sorts of "non-disclosure" agreements which
> say you are NOT to discuss anything to do with this and that.
>
> And you may not be sure exactly what you can or can't discuss, so safer to
> not discuss anything!
>
> Also look at law enforcement people. It is common for a Sherriff's
> department to not share information with a city Police department which
> would help solve a case...
>
> In the security field, it is like pulling teeth to get anyone to share
> information about anything even when you are authorized to know all about
> something!
>
> If you are interested in electronics, you will have better luck
> learning/experimenting with non-security related wireless devices here...
> http://www.crazyengineers.com/forum/forum.php
>


And if I may add........................

Very well said Bill could not have said it better myself.  I doubt at this
point that 'Frank Accavanno' OP is still reading this group since I think he
has moved on to other areas as he said he would.

But on the off chance he is still here lurking allow me to add a couple of
other comments.

Dear Frank,  when you type a message, especially if it is r-e-a-l-l-y
r-e-a-l-l-y   l-o-n-g   it would be best for those reading it if you would
take a breath and hit the ENTER key every so often a couple of times.  This
will cause the message to go into the form of paragraphs.  It will make it
much easier to read not to mention your proof reading before sending it on
to the world.

And lastly, it would not be a bad thing to let us know your what it is you
are not telling us.

As you said:
"Trust me when I say that you will be interestingly surprised to what my
thoughts are regarding this subject matter."

I would really like to have some first hand knowledge of something new that
may be hitting the market.

Les