Re: Using sounder smokes with out reversing relay

[JoeRaisin <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 2/16/2011 6:03 PM, nick markowitz wrote:
> Went to buy some smokes from alarm supply house other day and along
> with the smokes I picked up the reversing relay that makes them all
> sound on the line if any single unit activates . Makes sense want to
> wake the house up right?
> Counter guy tells me congratulations your one of the only dealers who
> buys the relay when you purchase the smokes.
> He then asks why are others not buying it and how are they installing
> the smokes to work properly good ?
> either they are not using them at all  and allowing one smoke
> activated sound or
> they are using a cheaper burg relay to do it a very dangerous choice.
> In either case how are they getting this by AHJ if there being used
> for primary service?
>
>
> I say it shows installer and alarm dealer ignorance and lack of
> education
> or outright greed by not using it one more dollars profit.. What do
> you think?

How about a company that allows the customer decide what's right.  The
place I used to work for had a rich customer (if I told you the name of
the pyramid scheme, you would recognize it) who doesn't like loud noises
so they asked for, and received, non-sounding smokes and no siren.  I
did an annual inspection and you cannot hear the keypad from the second
floor hall, not to mention the bedrooms.

Don't know for certain how the house got occupancy but when have more
money than God and relatives in politics I suppose anything is possible.

I noted it on my inspection report along with a memo up the chain saying
we ought to make sure they know what will happen in a fire.

I got back a polite, "Sit down and shut the fuck up."

One brother (a couple siblings now own the company) has his house wired
to do everything but turn on it's side and shake in a fire, but this
other one... nothing.