Re: FCI 7200 Fire Panel

[James B <denco2@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Feb 14, 7:44=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Feb 13, 10:09=A0pm, James B <den...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Feb 13, 3:20=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Feb 11, 12:33=A0pm, James B <den...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Feb 11, 12:08=A0am, Frank Kurz <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > On 10/02/2011 7:50 PM, James B wrote:
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> > > > > > On Feb 10, 5:30 pm, Jim<alarmi...@xxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
> > > > > >> On Feb 10, 6:34 pm, mleuck<m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
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> > > > > >>> On Feb 9, 11:45 pm, Frank Kurz<t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
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> > > > > >>>> On 09/02/2011 11:01 AM, James B wrote:
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> > > > > >>>>> On Feb 9, 12:58 am, Frank Kurz<t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0 =A0w=
rote:
> > > > > >>>>>> On 08/02/2011 7:53 PM, James B wrote:
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> > > > > >>>>>>> Does anyone here now how to run autoconfig on this panel?=
 =A0When I try
> > > > > >>>>>>> to run it I get an "access denied" message. =A0The 7200 p=
rogram manual
> > > > > >>>>>>> says to log in with the level 4 code to run the config pr=
ogram. =A0I
> > > > > >>>>>>> have done this, but once it starts the autoconfig about 2=
 seconds
> > > > > >>>>>>> later it comes up with access denied.
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> > > > > >>>>>>> One thing I noticed is the user codes are only 2 digits a=
nd the manual
> > > > > >>>>>>> says they should be 6, so I think its a 7200 Micro contro=
l but im not
> > > > > >>>>>>> sure. =A0I contacted a local FCI dealer "the original ins=
taller" and
> > > > > >>>>>>> they told me the panel is no longer made and they are not=
 sure they
> > > > > >>>>>>> have a tech that knows how to program it still. =A0They d=
id say they
> > > > > >>>>>>> would send one out and quoted me 10 hours @135 per hour. =
=A0I am only
> > > > > >>>>>>> trying to add 1 monitor module to the system. =A0The curr=
ent system only
> > > > > >>>>>>> has 5 points on it now. =A0Needles to say the dealer isnt=
 intrested in
> > > > > >>>>>>> such a small task, or helping me out.
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> > > > > >>>>>>> Can anyone tell me the correct procedure for running auto=
conifg?
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> > > > > >>>>>>> James
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> > > > > >>>>>> There are two possible scenarios here.
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> > > > > >>>>>> 1. =A0You haven't entered the correct password (which is w=
eird because it
> > > > > >>>>>> should boot you out immediately), or
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> > > > > >>>>>> 2. =A0You haven't followed the correct sequence to get int=
o
> > > > > >>>>>> auto-configure. =A0Are you trying to enter programming fro=
m the SCU or do
> > > > > >>>>>> you have a KDU/KDU-L?
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> > > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>> Frank Kurzwww.firetechs.net-Hidequotedtext-
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> > > > > >>>>> Frank,
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> > > > > >>>>> It has a KDU, =A0the only thing that is different is when I=
 log in and
> > > > > >>>>> it asks for a password. =A0The book says it should say "Ent=
er Password
> > > > > >>>>> 000000" =A0this one is saying "Enter Password 00". =A0I ent=
er the level 4
> > > > > >>>>> password and it accepts it. =A0I have tried a few wrong pas=
swords on
> > > > > >>>>> purpose and it rejects them immediately. =A0The panel is no=
t in alarm
> > > > > >>>>> when I log in but it does have 1 trouble "Extra Point" this=
 is the
> > > > > >>>>> point I am tryiing to add.
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> > > > > >>>>> James
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> > > > > >>>> Level four password is 440000. =A0The programming sequence i=
s really
> > > > > >>>> specific and straight forward. =A0If you need the manual, I =
can send it to
> > > > > >>>> you. =A0Unless the password has been changed by the "install=
ing company"
> > > > > >>>> (which is not uncommon), you should be able to configure the=
 system.
> > > > > >>>> Give me a call later in the morning. =A0I'll be in the offic=
e after 1100
> > > > > >>>> hours (Pacific). =A0The 800 number is at the bottom of every=
 page on our
> > > > > >>>> website.
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> > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > >>>> Frank Kurzwww.firetechs.net
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> > > > > >>> Hey Frank, do you have any idea if the OP is even qualified t=
o work on
> > > > > >>> a fire panel? I realize he has a program manual but other tha=
n that
> > > > > >>> you have no idea what his abilities are and it IS a fire pane=
l...-
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> > > > > >> I was thinking the same thing.
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> > > > > >> " But ..... but ..... yer Honor, I know all those people died,=
 but
> > > > > >> some guy on the Internet told me it was alright to do it!"- Hi=
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> > > > > > Relax you 2, of course im qualified to work on fire systems I a=
m not a
> > > > > > dealer for FCI though. You can confirm it here if you feel the =
need.
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> > > > > > =A0 =A0http://publicsafety.utah.gov/firemarshal/documents/FireA=
larmCertifica...
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> > > > > > Frank, when it asks me for a password it is only a 2 digit spot=
. =A0Is
> > > > > > there a way to make it accept a 6 digit code?
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> > > > > > Thanks,
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> > > > > > =A0 James
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> > > > > Yep. =A0One of the more common abbreviations used in this group i=
s "RTFM".
> > > > > =A0 In your case it looks like the system isn't responding in acc=
ordance
> > > > > with the published instructions. =A0The display should emulate wh=
at's in
> > > > > the manual. =A0You may have a bigger problem!
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> > > > > --
> > > > > Frank Kurzwww.firetechs.net-Hidequotedtext-
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> > > > Thanks, =A0I found a different manual for the 7200 micro panel and =
it
> > > > matches what I have. =A0"it shows 2 digit codes" However the progra=
mming
> > > > process is still the same. =A0Im going to try powering the system d=
own
> > > > to do a hard reset. =A0If that dont work it will be time for an upg=
rade.
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> > > > Thanks for your help.
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> > > > James
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> > > Hard reset of a critical fire panel, yea that'll do it...jeez- Hide q=
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> > Your right mleuck, the hard reset did not work. =A0:(
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> > What do you suggest I try next?
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> > James
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> Find a licensed fire tech who knows the panel, doesn't sound like you
> are one or are experienced in fire panel programming- Hide quoted text -
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Thanks anyway mleuck, I was hoping you had some real info on that
panel.  The reason I asked in this group was to find a fire tech that
is familiar with that particular panel.  I realize from the reputation
of this group that I wouldnt get too many legitimate offers of help.

James