Re: FCI 7200 Fire Panel

[James B <denco2@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Feb 13, 9:56=A0pm, Frank Kurz <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 13/02/2011 8:09 PM, James B wrote:
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> > On Feb 13, 3:20 pm, mleuck<m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
> >> On Feb 11, 12:33 pm, James B<den...@xxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
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> >>> On Feb 11, 12:08 am, Frank Kurz<t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
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> >>>> On 10/02/2011 7:50 PM, James B wrote:
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> >>>>> On Feb 10, 5:30 pm, Jim<alarmi...@xxxxxxx> =A0 =A0wrote:
> >>>>>> On Feb 10, 6:34 pm, mleuck<m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> =A0 =A0wrote:
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> >>>>>>> On Feb 9, 11:45 pm, Frank Kurz<t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0 =A0wrote:
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> >>>>>>>> On 09/02/2011 11:01 AM, James B wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 12:58 am, Frank Kurz<t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0 =A0 =A0w=
rote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2011 7:53 PM, James B wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone here now how to run autoconfig on this panel? =A0=
When I try
> >>>>>>>>>>> to run it I get an "access denied" message. =A0The 7200 progr=
am manual
> >>>>>>>>>>> says to log in with the level 4 code to run the config progra=
m. =A0I
> >>>>>>>>>>> have done this, but once it starts the autoconfig about 2 sec=
onds
> >>>>>>>>>>> later it comes up with access denied.
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> >>>>>>>>>>> One thing I noticed is the user codes are only 2 digits and t=
he manual
> >>>>>>>>>>> says they should be 6, so I think its a 7200 Micro control bu=
t im not
> >>>>>>>>>>> sure. =A0I contacted a local FCI dealer "the original install=
er" and
> >>>>>>>>>>> they told me the panel is no longer made and they are not sur=
e they
> >>>>>>>>>>> have a tech that knows how to program it still. =A0They did s=
ay they
> >>>>>>>>>>> would send one out and quoted me 10 hours @135 per hour. =A0I=
 am only
> >>>>>>>>>>> trying to add 1 monitor module to the system. =A0The current =
system only
> >>>>>>>>>>> has 5 points on it now. =A0Needles to say the dealer isnt int=
rested in
> >>>>>>>>>>> such a small task, or helping me out.
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me the correct procedure for running autoconi=
fg?
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> >>>>>>>>>>> James
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> >>>>>>>>>> There are two possible scenarios here.
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> >>>>>>>>>> 1. =A0You haven't entered the correct password (which is weird=
 because it
> >>>>>>>>>> should boot you out immediately), or
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> >>>>>>>>>> 2. =A0You haven't followed the correct sequence to get into
> >>>>>>>>>> auto-configure. =A0Are you trying to enter programming from th=
e SCU or do
> >>>>>>>>>> you have a KDU/KDU-L?
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> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Frank Kurzwww.firetechs.net-Hidequotedtext-
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> >>>>>>>>> Frank,
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> >>>>>>>>> It has a KDU, =A0the only thing that is different is when I log=
 in and
> >>>>>>>>> it asks for a password. =A0The book says it should say "Enter P=
assword
> >>>>>>>>> 000000" =A0this one is saying "Enter Password 00". =A0I enter t=
he level 4
> >>>>>>>>> password and it accepts it. =A0I have tried a few wrong passwor=
ds on
> >>>>>>>>> purpose and it rejects them immediately. =A0The panel is not in=
 alarm
> >>>>>>>>> when I log in but it does have 1 trouble "Extra Point" this is =
the
> >>>>>>>>> point I am tryiing to add.
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> >>>>>>>>> James
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> >>>>>>>> Level four password is 440000. =A0The programming sequence is re=
ally
> >>>>>>>> specific and straight forward. =A0If you need the manual, I can =
send it to
> >>>>>>>> you. =A0Unless the password has been changed by the "installing =
company"
> >>>>>>>> (which is not uncommon), you should be able to configure the sys=
tem.
> >>>>>>>> Give me a call later in the morning. =A0I'll be in the office af=
ter 1100
> >>>>>>>> hours (Pacific). =A0The 800 number is at the bottom of every pag=
e on our
> >>>>>>>> website.
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> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Frank Kurzwww.firetechs.net
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> >>>>>>> Hey Frank, do you have any idea if the OP is even qualified to wo=
rk on
> >>>>>>> a fire panel? I realize he has a program manual but other than th=
at
> >>>>>>> you have no idea what his abilities are and it IS a fire panel...=
-
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> >>>>>> I was thinking the same thing.
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> >>>>>> " But ..... but ..... yer Honor, I know all those people died, but
> >>>>>> some guy on the Internet told me it was alright to do it!"- Hide q=
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> >>>>> Relax you 2, of course im qualified to work on fire systems I am no=
t a
> >>>>> dealer for FCI though. You can confirm it here if you feel the need=
.
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> >>>>> =A0 =A0http://publicsafety.utah.gov/firemarshal/documents/FireAlarm=
Certifica...
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> >>>>> Frank, when it asks me for a password it is only a 2 digit spot. =
=A0Is
> >>>>> there a way to make it accept a 6 digit code?
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> >>>>> Thanks,
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> >>>>> =A0 =A0James
>
> >>>> Yep. =A0One of the more common abbreviations used in this group is "=
RTFM".
> >>>> =A0 =A0In your case it looks like the system isn't responding in acc=
ordance
> >>>> with the published instructions. =A0The display should emulate what'=
s in
> >>>> the manual. =A0You may have a bigger problem!
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> >>>> --
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> >>> Thanks, =A0I found a different manual for the 7200 micro panel and it
> >>> matches what I have. =A0"it shows 2 digit codes" However the programm=
ing
> >>> process is still the same. =A0Im going to try powering the system dow=
n
> >>> to do a hard reset. =A0If that dont work it will be time for an upgra=
de.
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> >>> Thanks for your help.
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> >>> James
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> >> Hard reset of a critical fire panel, yea that'll do it...jeez- Hide qu=
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> > Your right mleuck, the hard reset did not work. =A0:(
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> > What do you suggest I try next?
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> > James
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> Try following the instructions for entering the master password using
> the standard interface (without the KDU). =A0You'll have to enter the six
> digits in three increments.
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> Frank Kurzwww.firetechs.net- Hide quoted text -
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Thanks, Frank

I tried that as well, and it rejects the password.  Do you know if
their may be a way to lock out programming from the FCPMICRO Field
Configuration Program?  That is what I am guessing anyway.  I have
tried to locate another dealer in the area but I cant find the info on
the web.  I guess my next step will be to call Gamewell and see what
they can tell me.

James