Re: GEM-RP1CAe2 replacement

[Frank Kurz <tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 09/02/2011 11:25 AM, Jim wrote:
> On Feb 9, 11:41 am, wallstreet123456<szigg...@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>> On Feb 7, 11:15 pm, Jim<alarmi...@xxxxxxx>  wrote:
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>>> On Feb 7, 11:16 am, wallstreet123456<szigg...@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
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>>>> On Feb 7, 8:13 am, wallstreet123456<szigg...@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
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>>>>> On Feb 7, 12:17 am, Jim<alarmi...@xxxxxxx>  wrote:
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>>>>>> On Feb 6, 8:45 pm, wallstreet123456<szigg...@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
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>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 4:18 pm, Jim<alarmi...@xxxxxxx>  wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 3:57 pm, wallstreet123456<szigg...@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> I checked the keypad and it is not locked to the panel soI will be
>>>>>>>>> able to switch it out no problem. When I do the swap must I power down
>>>>>>>>> the entire alarm (remove the batter and unplug the power pack from the
>>>>>>>>> wall?)
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>>>>>>>>> Do I need to move the jumper also?
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>>>>>>>>> After I replace the keypad and power up the unit is there anything
>>>>>>>>> else I need to do or should it just (hopefully) work again.
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>>>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone in this form for being so helpful to me in the
>>>>>>>>> past.
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>>>>>>>>> Steven
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>>>>>>>> Did you go into the keypad configuration mode now to determine what
>>>>>>>> the configuration of your present keypad is? You should do that first
>>>>>>>> so that you know how to configure your new keypad. If your old keypad
>>>>>>>> configuration was changed in any way during installation and you don't
>>>>>>>> know what the changes are, you could wind up with some problems. Go
>>>>>>>> from point to point in the configuration mode an write down the
>>>>>>>> setting in each. ( see how to get into the configuration mode below.
>>>>>>>> Just don't power the system down now.)
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>>>>>>>> Once having determined what your present keypad configuration is,
>>>>>>>> power down the entire system, ( transformer and battery) Change the
>>>>>>>> keypad. Move the jumper on the panel PCB. Power up the panel pluging
>>>>>>>> the transformer in first and quickly attaching the battery. The system
>>>>>>>> will come up in the "OUT OF SYSTEM" mode at the keypad. Press in 11123
>>>>>>>> and the function button to get into the keypad configuration mode and
>>>>>>>> make it the same as your present keypad. Look at the Installation/
>>>>>>>> Programing insturctions for specifics on how to do this. Once this is
>>>>>>>> completed, move the jumper on the panel PCB back to the run position
>>>>>>>> and run for cover.  Nah!
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>>>>>>>> It may take more than a minute for the keypad to return to the normal
>>>>>>>> running mode.
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>>>>>>> Also, after I copy my settings down and put them into the keypad how
>>>>>>> do I save them, must I hit reset on the pad or some other key when I
>>>>>>> am finished entering my settings?-
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>>>>>> Pushing the On/Off key saves but I STRONGLY suggest that  you PLEASE
>>>>>> read the installation/programing instructions for doing this. I'm
>>>>>> giving you information from my memory. I've been doing this for over
>>>>>> 40 years. Much of what I do is so automatic that it's difficult for me
>>>>>> to know if I'm telling you all the necessary steps that need to be
>>>>>> done. I do it by rote now. If I forget to tell you to do something
>>>>>> and  you F.... k up, there's possibly not going to be an easy way to
>>>>>> get  you out of trouble. LOOK AT THE INSTRUCTIONS.
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>>>>>> And another suggestion: after you THINK you have everything right, go
>>>>>> back and look at each programed configuration page, checking it
>>>>>> against  your list before you leave the configuration mode.
>>>>>> THEN ...... you push the reset key. Not before.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
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>>>>> Thanks for the tip. I do plan on looking at it but from looking at it
>>>>> in the past it is a little confusing.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>> I thought that all the information in the keypad was stored in the
>>>> panel and when I swiched the keypad it would all flow into the new
>>>> one. This was very helpful Jim.
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>>>> If I do something wrong when setting it up (Just want to make sure) if
>>>> I put the old keypad back on will it work again?-
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>>> Yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,- Hide quoted text -
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>> OK, I just received my new keypad in the mail today and when I opened
>> it it has a wire harness in the box that connects to the keypad. I
>> have not removed my old panel from the wall yet  (it is about 10 years
>> old) did the old ones also have a wire harness? I hope so because all
>> I will have to do is remove the old harness and attach it to the new
>> keypad.-
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> Yes, after you have determined and recorded the configuration of your
> old keypad, power down the system, remove the front of the old keypad
> from the back half. Unplug the old keypad and plug in the new one. Be
> careful, the pins are delicate. Be sure you check all sides of the
> connector to make use you've aligned and inserted it properly. Mount
> the new keypad. Move the jumper on the main panel PCB and power up the
> system. Follow the instructions I've given you so far and refer to the
> installation manual for the fine details for configuring the new
> kepad. Once you are done, move the jumper on the PCB back to run
> position and wait a minute or so for the keypad to return to normal
> condition then try to arm the system and use all the functions of the
> keypad.


Y'know...  These days you seem to be a whole heck of a lot more patient.
  Or am I just imagining things?  :-)

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Frank Kurz
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