Re: Moose/Sentol

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sep 27, 9:04=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 7:59=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > RHC: No, the Private Members bill to do away with the long gun
> > registry was NOT passed. A lot of back room arm twisting by the
> > Liberals (Democrats), and a lot of lies by the anti-gunner groups,
> > misrepresentation of statistics, loads of tearful pleas by the
> > relations of the women shot during the Dawson college massacre, turned
> > enough gutless =A0MP's to keep the registry 153 votes to 151.
>
> > I've never seen such a miserable display of lies, misrepresented
> > statistics, and partisan politics in my life. This has only
> > strengthened the resolve of gun owners to make a major election issue
> > of this next time around. The Conservative government (like your
> > Republicans) is firm in their resolve to get rid of this "white
> > elephant" but it may or may not happen after the next election. If the
> > Conservatives get in with a majority government, they will have the
> > voting power to get rid of it for good. If the left wing Liberals get
> > in, not only will we have the continuation of this very dangerous
> > piece of legislation , but they have sworn to ban all handguns and
> > semi-automatic firearms as well (the lack of real logic on this simply
> > boggles the mind....)
>
> > The long gun registry is ONLY there to ensure that some future
> > government will have the ultimate ability to ban all firearms from the
> > hands of law abiding people !! This is one of the stated goals of the
> > UN. The anti-gunners are not intellectually honest enough to admit
> > this, but I've been in this business long enough to know it's true.
> > And even if it weren't their intent, why would politicians leave gun
> > owners in a position where some future government can do this on a
> > whim.
>
> > Look at England and Australia if you don't believe confiscation CAN
> > happen. Politicians simply can't be trusted to vote with reason when
> > emotion sways voters right or wrong. The Conservative government will
> > now have millions of gun owners voting for them, and raising funds for
> > them, based on this issue alone. I, like millions of other gun owners,
> > am now a criminal by dint of the fact that my paperwork is not
> > complete, and all my firearms are now subject to confiscation with no
> > compensation whatsoever, AND the police have the legal power to enter
> > my home WITHOUT A WARRANT on suspicion only that there are
> > unregistered firearms present.
>
> > Any one who doesn't see this as dangerous legislation is simply an
> > idiot !!-
>
> Sorry to hear that. I thought for sure it was a gone-er this time.
>
> Three stinking votes!!!!!!!!!!!

RHC: Yup, the Liberals forced their MP's to vote the party line since
it was a previous Liberal government that voted in this shit.  The
other minority party the New Democrats allowed a "free vote" by their
MP's but months of back room arm twisting forced just enough of their
MP's to change course to save the registry. Had all this politicing
not gone on, it would have passed easily....

I think that the Liberal and New Democrat MP's that clearly voted
against their constituents wishes may have committed political
suicide. The Conservatives will be using this as an election platform
in the next election hoping to win seats.

Politics aside, you have to ask yourself if this registry is such a
good thing, and so useful to police as they claim (at least the top
politically oriented echelon, but decidedly NOT the rank and file
cops), then why is it that only five of the 10 provinces will even
enforce it even though they are required to do so for all Federal
legislation including the criminal code ?  Why are the majority of gun
owners against it ? Why is the current compliance rate with the
registry hovering somewhere between 30 to 50% even in the urban
provinces that do enforce it.? Why are all outdoor and  Indian groups
unanimously against it ? Why are all women's and related groups for
it ? It's all in the perception of its perceived "good" while no one
is concerned a whit about it's dangers !!

The real, somewhat hidden reason they want the registry, is  the
powers that be would much rather see the complete banishing of all
firearms from the hands of the citizenry, when all is said and done.
They dare not admit it publicly, nor do they have to, as long as they
can nickel and dime our rights away one small step at a time. If some
future Liberal government decides to ban handguns and semi-automatics,
guess where they'll get the names and addresses of those who have
them !!

Canadians are sheep by and large. We've had it so good for so long, we
fail to see the ever present dangers of poorly conceived legislation
by flyweight politicians, that erodes personal freedoms of any kind.
Hey !!!...it doesn't affect me, so I don't care if it hurts your
interest, right ?   Wrong !!!!!!!!!....you only get the kind of
government you deserve as a people.

It'll be a frosty Friday in hell before I willingly give up my target
guns (long or short....)