Re: Joe...

[JoeRaisin <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 11/25/2010 3:13 PM, Jim wrote:
> On Nov 25, 11:43 am, JoeRaisin<joeraisin2...@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>
>> Saw that in yesterdays paper.  How much you wanna bet the rat bastard
>> doesn't do a day in jail?  The headline touted that he could do "life"
>> between the five and twenty year possible sentences for the various
>> charges but then sort of mentioned in an off hand way that probation was
>> also a possibility.
>>
>> Since elections supposed to be a non-violent way of changing government,
>> thus a means of avoiding bloody revolution, anyone convicted of
>> tampering with the electoral process should not only do jail time, but
>> be fined up to 80% of their net worth (Including any assets transferred
>> to relatives in the past two years).  To paraphrase from "Trading
>> Places", "...it occurs to me that the best way you hurt rich people is
>> by turning them into poor people."
>>
>> Since rich folks like Delay don't fear the Justice System, things need
>> to change so they do.
>>
>> But it won't happen, like I've said many times, laws are written by rich
>> people for rich people.  Just look at how the percentage of rich folks
>> in government has risen while the median income for the upper class has
>> gone up at the same time the median income for the middle and lower
>> classes has gone down.
>>
>> Same theory behind what I think would be the answer to illegal
>> immigration, financially destroy the folks owning/running those
>> companies caught using the illegal labor while keeping the companies
>> operating (in Government receivership).  The illegal labor market will
>> soon dry up.  IMHO that's the main reason nothing gets done about it -
>> those profiting face almost zero penalties.  It's like if the laws
>> against bank robbery said that if you get caught you have to give back
>> the money and tell Mr. Banker you're sorry - now go home and tell your
>> father what you've done.  If there is no real penalty for breaking a
>> law, but there is money to made by doing so - folks are going to break it.
>>
>> But I digress - Delay needs to do jail time.  Similar thing happened
>> here in Michigan with a major family owned grocery chain secretly and
>> illegally funding a "grass roots" effort to recall a township council
>> that, just by coincidence, was making the building of a store
>> inconveniently expensive.  The governor wouldn't let the AG (who wanted
>> to hammer them) and had the Secretary of State handle it since that
>> office controls elections.  They got a slap on the wrist - guess whose
>> campaigns they donated generously to?
>>
>> Politicians like Delay and Rangel shouldn't be above the law but
>> unfortunately, even when they are held accountable - they aren't really.
>
>
> There is no longer an reason to vote. There are only two parties with
> somewhat different goals but for both of them their motivation is
> power and privilege for themselves, which is achieved by getting and
> doing favors for others who are in power. And only incidently must
> they appear to be doing things for the country and the populace. This
> kind of government can only lead in one direction ....... and it is.
> It's just a guess but I give the US about another maybe 100 years or
> so and it will be unrecognizable compared to anything that remotely
> resembles what the Framers ever conceived.
>
> I've read alot about the Revolution and the people who were
> responsible for the founding of this nation. Try reading the
> Federalist Papers sometime. When  you read it in detail and see all of
> the minute events that were fostered by the coincidence of all of
> these great men who just happened to be contemporaries at a particular
> point in time. All of a like mind, who conceived and put down in
> words, on paper, the idea, of a  goverment run and based on lazie
> faire ideology, run by the people and not polititicans or a king......
> it was something short of a miracle. It truly saddens me as it should
> any truly patriotic person to see what a hideous thing it has been
> turned into.

If everyone I've heard say, "I'd vote third party if it wasn't throwing
away my vote." would go ahead and vote third party - they probably
wouldn't be throwing away their vote...