Re: How Does the New Health Care Reform Bill Affect Your Business ???

[Jim <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

On Nov 10, 9:40=EF=BF=BDpm, JoeRaisin <joeraisin2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> mleuck wrote:
> > On Nov 10, 6:53 pm, JoeRaisin <joeraisin2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> mleuck wrote:
> >>> On Nov 10, 1:09 am, "Robert L Bass" <Sa...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> The Repugnant party fought against Social Security and Medicare when=
 they were
> >>>> first being considered. =EF=BF=BD
> >>> Hardly, if it was anything like Civil Rights it was Republicans who
> >>> got them through
> >>>> Under Bush II they tried unsuccessfully to gut Social
> >>>> Security,
> >>> No he tried privatizing it, and your party stalled it leaving it stil=
l
> >>> going broke in a few years
> >> I don't think privatizing is the best way to go with a 'safety net.' =
=EF=BF=BDWe
> >> could end up needing a safety net for the safety net.
>
> >> IMHO, the way to fix it would be to forbid any use of the funds for
> >> anything other than benefit payments, increase the cap on contribution=
s
> >> (heh - 'contributions' my ass, it's a tax) and means test benefits.
>
> > No the only real fix is to eliminate the program, the programs are
> > unsustainable
>
> >> Instead, all we hear about is raising the qualifying age. =EF=BF=BDWha=
t a
> >> friggin load of crap that is...
>
> > But if you are going to do something why not raise the qualifying age?
> > The average lifespan when Social Security began was between 45 and 50,
> > it's now almost 70, if you don't raise the qualifying age you are
> > doing nothing more than putting the program into debt even faster
>
> Which is why I condone raising the contribution cap and means testing
> the benefits.
>
> I can't imagine crawling around in attics and crawl spaces when I'm 70.

I used to say that also. Now that I'm still physically fit enough to
do it, and still lovin it .... it's no problem at all.
I guess it all depends on on those two things .... whether you can do
it and whether you really like what you do or not. This has always
been my hobby as well as my livelyhood. Not too many people I know are
that lucky.

I have a friend of mine who really amazes me. We went to grade school
together and one of the main things we used to do as kids was make
tree forts and tree swings. He eventually went into the army as a
paratrooper and later went to work for the state doing tree work and
retired from that after 30 years. He's still doing it! He cuts and
prunes big trees and supplements his ample retirement from the state.
He has run the NY and Boston marathons a number of times and lately
with his grand children. Until a year ago was volunteering for fire
jumping out west. I'm pretty sure he was the oldest recorded
volunteer. We're the only two guys from our group of friends who're
still able to continue doing what we love to do. We laugh at all the
"old retired guys" who go shopping with their wives as a pastime and
they laugh at us for still "having to" work. We just tell
them ...Those that can ............ do.

I just figure if I wasn't doing this for money, I'd be doing it for
free .......... so what the hell!

>
> Social security is here to stay. =EF=BF=BDLike it or not.
>
> Which is a lesson we should take to heart in regards to the impending
> government health care.-