[Message Prev][Message Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Message Index][Thread Index]

Re: Ademco Vista10-SE installing new 5808 problems?



On Feb 5, 6:29=A0am, JoeRaisin <joerai...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thomas Hellmer wrote:
> > Hey guys. Bought my house a few months ago that had an old Vista 10-SE
> > system installed that works fine on the security side, but always gave
> > device troubles on both 5808 smoke/fire detectors (there were 2). Those=
 5808
> > units self-test buttons worked fine, and they seemed to actually work a=
s
> > stand alone smoke detectors, but the system would never recognize them =
in
> > test mode and every 24 hours or so would register the "check" device er=
rors
> > on the panels throughout the house. I tried repeatedly to enroll and
> > re-enroll them but they never would send their serial number upon tripp=
ing,
> > and entering them manually didn't seem to help either. I figured the
> > wireless transmitters had gone out or something, so I deleted both of t=
hem
> > from the supervised RF mode, and just let them hang as stand alone unit=
s.
> > Then this week I bought a brand new 5808 in the box thinking I would
> > reinstall just one so I would have at least one in the panel system wit=
h the
> > big loud horns and strobes. Well, yesterday I went in and totally delet=
ed
> > the two old =A05808's from the system, and re-enrolled just the new one=
.
> > Everything seemed to go smoothly, tripped the test button and it filled=
 in
> > the SN, assigned alpha, etc. Then after I exited, it tested ok and disp=
layed
> > in the code+5 test mode. =A0So I mounted it, thinking everything was fi=
ne.
> > Then today when I came home from lunch, the panel was giving the old "c=
heck"
> > device# error, and on the alpha pad had the Fire trouble code. =A0I tri=
ed the
> > test button, batteries in and out, etc - even rebooted the whole Vista =
panel
> > with backup battery out. Nothing. So I went back into the programming m=
ode,
> > and everything seemed fine, but just in case I deleted the serial numbe=
r and
> > tried to trip it to let it insert it again and it never would - batteri=
es
> > out for several minutes, in and out of the tamper mounting ring, etc.
> > Nothing. =A0So I deleted the whole device entry, and just for a whim, d=
ragged
> > out one of the old ones that would never respond before, and amazingly =
it
> > fired right up,and even sent its serial number into the enrollment
> > automatically. It wouldn't ever test though when the panel was put into=
 test
> > mode. The new one simply will not send its number or respond in test (c=
ode
> > +5) mode at all now (it does still do its own test when the recessed bu=
tton
> > is pressed) - maybe the battery has to be out for over 24 hours? Anyway=
, I
> > was just wondering if there was some special trick with the 5808 units =
and
> > the Vista 10SE panels - some particular loop, zone, etc?? =A0I enrolled=
 it
> > like the old ones - Zone Type 09, RF, Loop 1, I left the report codes a=
s 11,
> > and 00 - although it is not a monitored system so I wouldn't think that
> > would matter. I had it as Zone number 17, and put in another as Zone 18
> > (those were how they were setup when I bought the house), but neither a=
re
> > working with the actual system. There are enough empty zones. Everythin=
g in
> > the house - all wireless devices are all on Loop 1. Anyone have ideas? =
=A0I
> > used to be an electronics and computer repairman as well as a computer
> > programmer, so none of this seems difficult to me, just not having work=
ed
> > with them before and having such limited written technical resources ha=
s me
> > stumped on this problem. I have the install guide, operations guide, an=
d
> > manuals that come with the new 5808. Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
> > Thomas
>
> I couldn't spot anything you have done wrong. =A0If I were having that
> problem while installing a system I would check my receiver, its
> location or change the panel board since you have three unique devices
> with the same problem - you have to look at what they have in common:
>
> RF receiver
> RF receiver location
> Panel
>
> Also, for testing - I like to use a product called Smoke Check. =A0I have
> seen 5808's that work just fine with the test button but wouldn't
> respond to smoke.
>
> Good luck and if you have any doubts - get a couple detectors from the
> hardware store to use until the system is working.
>
> Better safe than sorry.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You might want to try changing them to a different zone I have seen
dead zone problems couple of times with 10se panels


alt.security.alarms Main Index | alt.security.alarms Thread Index | alt.security.alarms Home | Archives Home