Re: Ademco Vista10-SE installing new 5808 problems?

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I've not that problem. But I always...hand enter the SN...because I HAVE had
problems with the old trip to enroll method.

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**Crash Gordon**







"Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I have had that problem before. It is usually caused by the the smoke
> mounted on the base the wrong way. Try turning the smoke around 180
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> Thomas Hellmer wrote:
>> Hey guys. Bought my house a few months ago that had an old Vista 10-SE
>> system installed that works fine on the security side, but always gave
>> device troubles on both 5808 smoke/fire detectors (there were 2). Those
>> 5808
>> units self-test buttons worked fine, and they seemed to actually work as
>> stand alone smoke detectors, but the system would never recognize them in
>> test mode and every 24 hours or so would register the "check" device
>> errors
>> on the panels throughout the house. I tried repeatedly to enroll and
>> re-enroll them but they never would send their serial number upon
>> tripping,
>> and entering them manually didn't seem to help either. I figured the
>> wireless transmitters had gone out or something, so I deleted both of
>> them
>> from the supervised RF mode, and just let them hang as stand alone units.
>> Then this week I bought a brand new 5808 in the box thinking I would
>> reinstall just one so I would have at least one in the panel system with
>> the
>> big loud horns and strobes. Well, yesterday I went in and totally deleted
>> the two old  5808's from the system, and re-enrolled just the new one.
>> Everything seemed to go smoothly, tripped the test button and it filled
>> in
>> the SN, assigned alpha, etc. Then after I exited, it tested ok and
>> displayed
>> in the code+5 test mode.  So I mounted it, thinking everything was fine.
>> Then today when I came home from lunch, the panel was giving the old
>> "check"
>> device# error, and on the alpha pad had the Fire trouble code.  I tried
>> the
>> test button, batteries in and out, etc - even rebooted the whole Vista
>> panel
>> with backup battery out. Nothing. So I went back into the programming
>> mode,
>> and everything seemed fine, but just in case I deleted the serial number
>> and
>> tried to trip it to let it insert it again and it never would - batteries
>> out for several minutes, in and out of the tamper mounting ring, etc.
>> Nothing.  So I deleted the whole device entry, and just for a whim,
>> dragged
>> out one of the old ones that would never respond before, and amazingly it
>> fired right up,and even sent its serial number into the enrollment
>> automatically. It wouldn't ever test though when the panel was put into
>> test
>> mode. The new one simply will not send its number or respond in test
>> (code
>> +5) mode at all now (it does still do its own test when the recessed
>> button
>> is pressed) - maybe the battery has to be out for over 24 hours? Anyway,
>> I
>> was just wondering if there was some special trick with the 5808 units
>> and
>> the Vista 10SE panels - some particular loop, zone, etc??  I enrolled it
>> like the old ones - Zone Type 09, RF, Loop 1, I left the report codes as
>> 11,
>> and 00 - although it is not a monitored system so I wouldn't think that
>> would matter. I had it as Zone number 17, and put in another as Zone 18
>> (those were how they were setup when I bought the house), but neither are
>> working with the actual system. There are enough empty zones. Everything
>> in
>> the house - all wireless devices are all on Loop 1. Anyone have ideas?  I
>> used to be an electronics and computer repairman as well as a computer
>> programmer, so none of this seems difficult to me, just not having worked
>> with them before and having such limited written technical resources has
>> me
>> stumped on this problem. I have the install guide, operations guide, and
>> manuals that come with the new 5808. Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
>> Thomas
>>