Re: An ethical conundrum... Opinions welcome!

[JoeRaisin <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx>]

Frank Olson wrote:
> tourman wrote:
>> On Nov 29, 10:23 am, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Nov 29, 3:11 am, Effenpig1 <dirtyspicev...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>>>> I've noticed a lot of high volume companies don't use timer tests
>>>>>> on residential systems, usually because they want to cut down on
>>>>>> service since they don't have anyone local.
>>>>> Yea right
>>>> Ummm, Yea right, WHAT????
>>> Ummm Yea right it's nonsense someone does not use timer tests to
>>> prevent service calls.
>>
>> RHC: More likely they don't use test signals to cut down the number of
>> signals going in to their massive stations. Millions of accounts
>> equals millions of test signals, which in turn equals a lot more
>> hardware to handle them. And if they can fall back on that
>> manufacturer published doctrine..."test systems weekly" as an excuse
>> not to do the right thing...why not ?
>>
>> To their way of corporate thinking, this might well make sense.....
>> who knows what's in their minds !!! It would be interesting to know if
>> the worst of the bunch...Alarmforce.... program in test
>> signals...anyone know ?
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> I have no idea.  I was talking to the manager of one of the better
> alarmco's in Vancouver and he told me that they lost a client to
> Alarmfarce.  The guy had a full perimeter system installed.  Glass-break
> detectors, etc.  Sold the house and the new owner moved his Alarmfarce
> system in.  One door, one PIR (made "pet proof" by mounting it upside
> down three feet from the floor).  The alarmco's service dept was
> contacted to power down their equipment (including the monitored smoke
> and carbon monoxide detectors).  This company charged $35.00 per month
> for monitoring ($25.00 per month for basic service, $5.00 for fire, and
> $5.00 for CO).  Alarmfarce charges $25.00 for their voice service.  I
> suppose the customer perceived "value" in one over the other.  There's a
> lot of "hype" in the sales pitch used by Alarmfarce.  I hope Joel Matlin
> sleeps well at night secure in the knowledge that the fire and CO
> detectors in this house have been neutralized because this customer
> chose "the best alarm system in North America".
>
> PS.  Like any good reputable alarm dealer the customer was offered a
> degraded system (local only) rather than disconnect the thing entirely.
>  He didn't want to pay for the service call so now, he has practically
> "nothing".

Good Freakin' God - I hope there are other smoke detectors in the house.

What is the liability - even if asked to do so - in killing smoke
detectors in a house?  Should the AHJ that granted occupancy way back
when be contacted?