Re: Please recommend cctv dome camera

[Frank Olson <use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jim wrote:
> On Jul 29, 9:04�pm, Matt Ion <soundy...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 7/25/2009 8:07 PM, wdoe...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>>> On Jul 25, 5:37 pm, G. Morgan<usenet_ab...@xxxxxxxxx> �wrote:
>>>> wdoe...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>> Must be economy of scale, or just ripoff.
>>>> Or that annoying "knock", �"that it can't be far from the computer (USB)",
>>>> might have something to do with it.
>>> Actually the complexity of an IP camera is less than that of a digital
>>> snapshot camera. �Yes there is the addition of an ethernet interface,
>>> but there is the absence of:
>>> LCD screen
>>> Battery
>>> Flash
>>> Human interface software and buttons/switches
>>> Large amounts of storage/memory
>>> Decent zoom lens (at least the IP cams I have seen have nothing
>>> equivalent to even the cheapest of snapshot cameras)
>> You're comparing "consumer" gear to "professional" gear. �When you're
>> talking CCTV cameras, they tend to be more robust and overall more
>> versatile. �They often have to live dozens, hundreds, or even thousands
>> of feet from their recorder. �They have to deal with all manner of harsh
>> environments: temperature extremes, moisture, dust, vibration. �They
>> have to be able to be mounted in all manner of locations and positions.
>> � They often have to accept a variety of power sources. �And they have
>> to operate for years, completely unattended.
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>> Things like batteries, LCDs, flashes, buttons-and-switches, and on-board
>> storage add cost and are of little or no use when a camera is running in
>> an inaccessible location.
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>> As for lenses, most CCTV cameras have standarized lens mounts that let
>> you attach a wide variety of lenses for specific purposes. �With a
>> consumer camera, including your webcam and your pocket camera, you're
>> stuck forever with the lens it came with. �If you need super-long range,
>> ultra-wide angle, or anything else for a specialized purpose, you're SOL.
>>
>> And as far as "human interface software", pretty much all IP CCTV
>> cameras have a web-based configuration utility to let you adjust the
>> image far more than the few menus on your typical pocket camera... and
>> you can do it from any remote location, rather than needing to access
>> the camera itself. �Some advanced analog cameras have this ability as well.
>>
>> In short, you're comparing the proverbial apples and oranges... a small
>> hatchback to a 5-ton truck. �Each has its place, and you can sometimes
>> use one in place of the other, but it will never completely fulfill that
>> role.-
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> Isn't the obvious .... emmmm obvious?
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> When he responed I thought ..... yeh sure, stick a "cheapest snapshot
> camera" on top of a 30 foot tall pole someplace in a parking lot, 100
> feet from any building, exposed to all the elements, taking "pictures"
> 24/7, for 10 years.
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> I never would have taken the time to tell him all this.
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You forgot to mention it had to powered with a wall wart on the end of a
  350 foor extension cord.