Re: Non mains system

[Paul O'Grady <Paul-O@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Roland Moore wrote:
> ">The American urge to kill everything"
> Seems like you're a bit murky about any similar British urges.
> So let me get this straight. You are using a weapon in a sport. And that
> says nothing about you of course. Then considering the technical
> improvements to the weapon you credit (or blame more likely) on the
> "American urge to kill everything"? Well, I thought it was Holless Wilbur
> Allen's invention along with improvements from guys like Tom Jennings. Allen
> hunted deer with it, and was never reported to have an urge to "kill
> everything". Now let's talk about some REAL killers.
>  The British colonial power that founded the "commonwealth" certainly had a
> body count associated with it.
>  Let's not talk about "ancient history" about the British. Let's talk about
> the last 50 years or so, in the same time frame, more or less, of the
> compound bow improvements.
> It might make you wonder about your statement about the "Americans liking to
> kill everything".
>
>  In excess of 50,000 people are reported to have been killed by British
> security forces in Kenya since the 1950's.
> -Horrific tortures and murders committed by white officials and local
> soldiers under their command
> -Castration and blinding for defying captors
> -Fatal whipping
> -Rape by British soldiers
> -There were also tales of daily killings at a British-run slave labor camp
> called Embakasi
> What areas of the British Commonwealth don't have similar types of
> atrocities historically associated with it?
> No doubt some of these same folks that did this in Kenya are alive today
> living under the Union Jack!
> So I see it's is a weapon that by itself that you wish to blame, and not get
> too troubled about the actual killers living among you.
> So tell me just which ones of the more than 50,000 the British had murdered
> were felled with the that type of bow?
>
> (Note to Bass, the above atrocities are included in reports from the BBC so
> to your thinking it has to be true)
>

What a strange post. I think you've lost the plot my friend. My advice
would be to go see a doctor immediately.

The point I was making is that, if you take away the need for a more
powerful weapon i.e. stop killing beautiful animals like deer, Elk, Bear
etc, the traditional weapons are more than adequate to show the skill of
the archer and not the weapon. I even watched one American prat shoot a
Lion in Africa with a compound bow so he could video it & make some
money. Or show it to friends & family which is worse. Of course the guy
was up a tree on a platform and the Lion was lured there with dead meat
but that doesn't matter does it?

As far as atrocities to human kind goes, I'm not quite sure how the
British got into this (we're talking about soldiers now, right?)but it's
strange that you don't count like for like. For example, in the same
time frame you don't mention, nuclear weapons, Hiroshima, Ngasaki,
Vietnam, or Iraq. Take a look at the statistics for the Vietnam war.
More tonnage of bombs than almost everything else combined before or
since. In a war that nobody wanted except the politicians. Read any U.S.
soldiers account of what happened to the women & children when they went
through ANY native village, not just Cong. The atrocities didn't stop at
foreigners either. On their return, American soldiers were spat on &
worse by their own people because it was a bad war fought in a bad way.
We won't even start on Iraq. Another war that nobody wanted except
American politicians.
Do you want to compare the American dead to the British for the same
time frame? I don't think so.

You don't even have the common sense to differentiate between citizens
and soldiers. Very strange.

You want to give me a timescale for when the American PEOPLE (not
soldiers) will give up their guns? Again, I don't think so.

Before I go, I'd just like to say that I am a well balanced person. I
don't get into argument unless provoked. I actually like America very
much and most of the American people. I just don't like the ones who
think and talk with their arseholes. (note the proper way to spell it)