Re: oye

["Just Looking" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>Now I know you've never used Napco.  It will transmit per-zone >alarm,
restore and/or trouble to the central station.  I have >hundreds of  DIYers
who have installed Napco systems with no >trouble at all.  I've also
installed Napco for over 20 years.

You are correct that Napco will send per zone alarm and restoral signals.
However if you reread the post that wasn't what I was talking about. If you
have a transmitter that fails to report on time, the only signal you'll
receive using the Ademco Contact ID format is a generic expansion module
failure with no associated zone information.

You replied to a post from someone else about the regular alarm dealer part.
I never claimed to be one of those. Not sure what it is either, other than
folks that may have their keypads private labeled. But Continental
Instruments does have what it calls master dealers, about 16 total in the
USA. That I can claim for what its worth.

"Robert L Bass" <RobertLBass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Roland More" wrote:
> >
> >> Were you using Gemini wireless?
> >
> > Yes, GEM 9600 mostly.
>
> I doubt it.  Napco's wireless has always had excellent range.
>
> >>Its some of the easiest most trouble free stuff I have ever used
> >
> > I suspect you've never given Inovonics a fair shot. It blows
> > everything else away in my opinion. Even the big retailer in
> > Arkansas uses it.
>
> Claiming that Inovonics is great does not support the idea than Napco
> isn't.  That's an olsonic argument.  FWIW, Inovonics does make
> excellent add-on RF components.  However, Napco's own wireless is
> good enough that even someone as incompetent as Jiminex can handle
> it.
>
> >> and the error code on the LCD RP1CAe2 keypads does indicate the
> >> transmitter/zone.
> >
> > That wasn't my point. The point is you don't get that wireless zone
> > information at the central station...
>
> Now I know you've never used Napco.  It will transmit per-zone alarm,
> restore and/or trouble to the central station.  I have hundreds of
> DIYers who have installed Napco systems with no trouble at all.  I've
> also installed Napco for over 20 years.
>
> > You get a generic expansion module failure signal...
>
> Bullshit!  If a Napco wireless sensor fails to communicate (ie, late
> to test) the system will notify the central station of the fault,
> including the zone number.  It will not send an expansion module
> failure signal unless an expansion module fails.
>
> > If you want to find out then you have to upload the event buffer,
> > ask the customer (bad idea) or send a tech.  Additionally you don't
> > get a reliable number during wireless placement test. If Inovonics
> > test kit says you're okay, you really okay. If Napco says 4 or
> > better, it still might not be a good enough placement to avoid
> > problems.
>
> One of the nice things about Napco is the signal is usually solid
> even in a large home because their transmitters are good.  I always
> preferred wired systems over wireless but when there was no
> reasonable alternative we installed wireless.  The only thing I don't
> like about Napco is the limited selection of Contact ID codes.
>
> >> As a regular dealer Napco sent me a Freedom 64 to evaluate.  I
> >> plan to set it up as a parrallel system in my new office when I
> >> have time and play with some of the wireless as redundant
> >> coverage.  Much like I had my old office setup with multiple
> >> systems for experimentation and training.
>
> More bullshit!  Napco doesn't have dealers and there's no such thing
> as a "regular Napco dealer."
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
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