Re: Yea! Another one read the contract!

[Frank Olson <use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Robert L Bass wrote:
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" <no@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:-4Sdnb71gsHWPaXanZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> "Frank Olson" <use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:sG0_i.202976$Da.11120@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> "mr. bass" fell asleep at the wheel.  Someone that gets behind the
>>> wheel of an automobile when he *knows* he's tired is criminally
>>> negligent. "mr. bass" also threatened another person with a gun (was
>>> convicted of that crime and sentenced to five years probation).  The
>>> latter crime was committed in Florida the very same year he set up a
>>> security company in Connecticut.  He did this without the proper
>>> licensing too.  "mr. bass" has flouted social mores, local laws and
>>> ordinances for most of his life. He recently had to stop selling
>>> monitoring contracts because he lacked the proper licensing in Florida.
>>
>> thank you for the information.  im still trying to "learn" everyone in
>> here before i formally introduce myself to the group.
>
> Nathan,
>
> To understand what goes on in this newsgroup you need first to
> understand a little about Olson and a couple of others here.  Olson lies
> constantly.  He has gone real world against me and my online business
> repeatedly so I decided to find out if there was anything more than
> bluster behind his statements here.

Y'know...  Your "spin" on what really happened here is sometimes
breathtaking to behold.  *I* lie constantly??  In your dreams, Bass.
Let's take another look at what's really happening here...


>
> He has made a fictitious persona of himself, claiming all kinds of
> experience which he does not have.

Really?  What "kinds of experience" would that be??


> He also tells ludicrous tall
> stories.

You've yet to prove one of them as being a "tall story".


> For example, he once claimed that he had snap-rolled (an
> extreme aerobatic maneuver which is prohibited, not to mention
> physically impossible in a large airliner) a Boeing 737 airliner which,

Actually I've never snap rolled anything bigger than a Citabria.  I've
been in a Pitts Special (passenger) and a CF-104 "Widowmaker"
(passenger) during some pretty "hairy" maneuvers.  I've also been a
passenger in a Boeing 737-200 which went inverted briefly during a
Boeing sanctioned test flight.

> according to Olson was lent to him by Boeing Aircraft so he could test
> his per theory about a famous Canadian air crash.

I wish I had that kind of "pull" at Boeing.


> I checked.  He never
> held a pilot's license in the US or Canada.

Not in the name of "Olson".  Remember something about "two fathers"??


>
> Olson also claims he installs all kinds of advanced security, access
> control and fire alarm systems in and around Burnaby, BC.

Yep.


> I checked
> that, too.  None of the local supply shops ever heard of him.

Not in the name of "Olson".  Remember something about "two fathers"??
It bugs him no end that he can't find out who I am.  He spends an
inordinate amount of time and long distance charges "researching" me.  I
wonder why that is.


> No
> inspectors in any of the towns near there had ever heard of him. There's
> no record of a license in his name.

Check...  Not in the name of "Olson".


>
> Olson built a website which pretends to "represent" this newsgroup.

Really??  I thought it did a pretty good job of providing some good
information about security systems in general.  It's at
http://wwww.yoursecuritysource.com


> On
> it he placed the logos of various manufacturers and industry
> associations.

Yep.


> Above those logos he "thanks" all of those organizations
> for their assistance in creating the website.

That's not entirely true either.  You see what an insidious jerk this
guy is??  He tells "half truths" (or a version of his own half-baked ideas).


> I checked that out, too.
> No one in marketing, public relations, etc., from any of the companies
> knew anything about Olson's website.

Really??  You checked??  Wow.  Does this constitute "interfering" with
*my* business?  :-)


>
> The site includes a page which quotes a *proposed* FAQ for this
> newsgroup.

By what do you mean "proposed"?  It IS the FAQ, Robert.


> The FAQ was the idea of the gentleman who originally posted
> the requests to create the newsgroup (a minor task which required less
> than an hour's time).

Y'know.  I can really understand why Steve decided to stop posting here.
  This group was *his* brain-child and you've taken it somewhere he
never meant it to go.  This is NOT your personal tech-support forum.
With all the forum software out there, why not put up your own (on one
of your many websites)?  I know the answer to that...  because NO-ONE
would visit.  So...  You decide that, hey, you can market to DIYer's in
a forum of industry professionals, bicycle enthusiasts, and aviation
buffs...  It's no wonder you're the pariah you are.


> Olson never met the gentleman (I have) and had
> nothing to do with creating, maintaining or otherwise supporting the
> newsgroup or the proposed FAQ.

I never said that I knew (or met) Steve.  I do understand him, though.
Just as I understand Andy.


> FWIW< the FAQ never became official
> since no one could agree on its terms and none of the people who post
> here, including me and *especially* including Olson has ever given it
> more than lip service.

FWIW, the FAQ is ignored by Bass because he uses this group as one of
his "marketing tools" and for "search engine positioning".  You're a
schmuck, Bass.


>
> There's a long-term war in this newsgroup which began when I came along
> about eight or nine years ago and began posting answers to DIYers'
> questions along with links to my website.

Check...  Now we're touching the truth.  There IS a FAQ, Bass.  And
you've ignored it from the very first time you decided to "grace" us
with your slime.


> Several other long-term
> participants (the word, "members" is not appropriate since there is no
> membership per se) here tried to stop me from posting.

They objected to your turning the group into your personal tech support
forum, you mean.


> When they
> realized they could not get the ISP's that actually own the news servers
> to cooperate they tried flame wars (posting the kind of personal attacks
> Olson just did),

Where did I flame you Bass?  I've spoken the truth about everything in
your past that you'd just as soon have people forget about.


> bogus complaints to the local BBB,

There you go again.  How can ANYONE (other than a legitimate customer of
a business) post a complaint to your BBB?  You really don't know how
that process works, do you?  They INVESTIGATE every one (and won't act
unless the customer can show them a credit card receipt or invoice).
Wake up, Bass!!!


> the states of FL

Check.  I filed a complaint about the fact that you were engaged in
LICENSED activity by selling monitoring contracts against the Florida
Statutes.  They shut you down.


> and
> CT

I've never contacted any state authority in CT, Bass.  This is so
typical of how you munge facts.


> and calls to my distributors

One distributor.  ADI.  And all I asked the guy that answered the phone
was "What do you need to purchase product from your organization in
Florida?"  He answered with: "A Florida Alarm License."  I then said
"Thank you" and hung up.  Your name was never mentioned, and neither was
mine.  You've "made up" (embellished) the story a bit by adding a few
words that were NEVER spoken.  You are such a liar!!!


> and manufacturers.

Check.  I called DSC because you were offering their panel software on
your website as a free download.  You did this without their permission
and in violation of the software's EULA.  You still have the links up on
all three of your websites.  This is to facilitate being able to
distribute the software to those customers that are interested in it.
You move the files from one folder to the one the links point to.
Simple.  Equally illegal.


> Olson called ADI,
> DSC and several others trying to interfere with my business.

Explained above.


> He also
> filed a bogus complaint with the state electrical contractor licensing
> board.  All of those efforts failed since there was never a shred of
> evidence to support their claims.

Funny...  they did shut down that part of your service, though.


>
> Now Olson, Jiminex (a nickname I gave to one exceptionally vulgar
> participant whose verbal filth I assume you've already noticed) and
> several others simply post flames in response to anything I say.

No, actually.  I haven't posted a single flame, Bass.  I'm just
clarifying a few points you've decided to "munge".


> Several
> of them, when they learned I'm fighting cancer, actually rejoiced
> publicly.

Up until I just recently found out you wrote the "Whore-a-Mona", I never
really wished you ill.  Now, I hope you die.  Soon.  No one with the
kind of mind that wrote that deserves to live.


> These are not normal people.

You're the least "normal" of all of us, I'd say.


> You can believe what they say
> or not.

Believe.  Everything we say is the truth.  Bass is a lying scumbag.
You'd best steer well away from him.  He's demonstrated (on more than
one occasion) the ability to "sucker" you into thinking you're his "best
friend", then turn around and use what you tell him against you.  Ask
Graham Morgan (another long time participant here).


> It will not change anything.

If we can post adequate warnings, people will know to be careful.


> However, if you dare to speak up
> for any semblance of human decency you'll get slammed mercilessly,
> called every name in the book as has been done to anyone and everyone
> who refused to join their effort.

That's classic Bassism.  If you dare to oppose anything he does here,
you'll get "slammed mercilessly".  Your email will become full of
"Florida Real Estate" bulletins and you'll get a whole bunch of "big
prick" ads in Portuguese from Brazil.


>
> They're basically sick, cowardly people who hide behind the perceived
> anonymity of Usenet much as cowards driving big SUV's behave boorishly
> on the road.

Hey!!!  I drive a "big SUV", and I'm not the least bit "boorish".


> They would never dare to act this way in person.

Just as you would never dare show up in a room full of alarm installers
and service techs and try to "sell" DIY.  What a "maroon", Bass.


> That's
> why they find Usenet so rewarding.  It gives them a place to act tough
> without fear of being popped in the nose.  As such, Usenet affords an
> attractive, safe haven for people like Olson. They tend to hang around
> for years because here they can pretend they're part of the "in crowd"
> (in this case, alarm installers).

Speaking of "alarm installers"...  When was the last time you actually
INSTALLED anything??


>
> For my part, I'm not in the least ambiguous about my motives for being
> here.  I answer DIYer and newbie techs' questions because it makes
> people interested in my online alarm system store.  That very fact
> infuriates these guys and since I have no intention of stopping and
> neither do they, the war rages on.  C'est la vie, no?

You've yet to experience one of Bass' classic newsgroup "floods".  He
has on more than one occasion flooded the group with reams of html code
snipped from his website as well as whole lists of product and prices.
Read the FAQ at http://www.yoursecuritysource.com/asafaq.htm.  Decide
for yourself how you wish to participate in this group.  Google "Robert
L Bass" in this group and others.  Visit http://www.goofysplace.com.
It's a little "sick and twisted", that's true, but a good deal of what
you see there has been posted by Bass himself as well as the people that
he's "ticked off" over the years.

Welcome to ASA, Nathan!