Re: Raising and Lowering Security Cameras

[Bob La Londe <alarm_wizard@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On May 19, 6:11 am, wizzaar...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On May 17, 9:38 pm, wizzaar...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > I was told that there was a device that will raise and lower a
> > security camera. I guess it would be some thing similar to a flag
> > pole. I have an issue where I need to have a PTZ camera mounted 20
> > feet up a pole. My contractor has aimed towards health and safety
> > rules where they will not climb a ladder above 10 feet high. If you
> > can find a 6' 6" technician then he may be able to reach as high as 17
> > feet. If any higher I need to pay for a lifting device such as a
> > scissor lift or a boom lift. I was told that there is a pole that you
> > can mount a camera on and raise and lower the camera. I have searched
> > for such a device and have had no results. Anyone ever heard of such a
> > thing?
>
> Man, you do get slammed in these groups. I'm not a cheap bastidge and
> actually my contractor is not low grade. "Robert L Bass", I thank you
> for the time and effort you put into your response and the links you
> gave me to OSHA, but I am tied to union rules as well as health and
> safety regulations. I know that a 16 foot ladder would get me eyeball
> height with the camera and to be honest with you I would climb up and
> do it myself, but grievances will fly beyond belief. Unfortunately,
> due to the union rules, I can not use any tools, which is frustrating
> since I used to do this type of work in my former job. I guess those
> are the breaks when you "go up the ladder" in your career.
>
> The application for this camera is unique to me, I have a camera
> mounted up the pole in the center of a large open outside area. You
> wouldn't believe how much it cost me to get conduit run underground to
> this pole, we ran into many obstacles while boring so had to trench a
> lot of the way, which cost more since we needed to replace the
> asphalt. Anyway, I am installing a thermal PTZ camera, with video
> analytics. I am expecting to need to get to this camera fairly often
> since I am testing this technology out. Therefore, renting a lift once
> more to install this camera lowering system, will hopefully save me
> money for future service and experimental work. The camera I have
> priced out will cost me just over $100,000.00 and the video analytics
> console will cost me around $13,000.00. By the time I am done with
> this installation I will have about $150,000.00 plus into it. Then I
> can start playing around with the analytics. So, "BOB LaLONDE" I guess
> if you want to call me a cheap bastidge I guess that your prerogative,
> I guess I won't be needing your consulting services at any time.
>
> As you can probably tell I am a newcomer to this group and it's been
> good reading your posts. I thank you for your help, hopefully I will
> be able to help you in the future. I will check out the camera
> lowering system that "Michael" sent me. If any of you have any more
> systems for me to look at I would appreciate the links as well.

Why thank you for being so informative in your original post.  As is
often the case with this type of query you uttterly failed to describe
the scope of the problem.  You made it sound like you were just
complaining that your contractor wouldn't climb a ladder.  You totally
failed to mention the fact that you NEEDED to raise and lower the
camera repeatedly.  You made it sound like the contractor simpley
would not climb a ladder.  Now had you not failed to provide that
information your responses might have been a little different.

Compare....  "My contractor won't climb a ladder so I need a device to
raise and lower the camera."

Whiney and incomplete.


VS... "I need to raise and lwoer a camera because we need to service
it for XXX reason regularly."

Complete and concise and defines the actual problem.


Given your application and the amount of money you are spending you
might even consider buying a lift.  I've got tons of commerical, R&D,
and industrial clients who own their own lifts.  If you owned a lift
it would solve future problems as well.

To be quite frank your limited definition of scope is very common,
although its usually by clients who are trying to cheap out.  That's
right.  Cheap bastidges.  Guys who don't tell you everything you need
to know, and then expect you to just throw it in at the same price.
I'ld sure like to hear your contractor's opinion of this job and you
as a client.  LOL.  Its right up there with guys who interrupt every
suggestion or statement of fact about how a job could or should be
done with sentences that start with the words, "just" and "only."
Heck, I'm curious why your contractor hasn't researched this product
so they can sell it to you.

--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from, **and who we
will or won't work for.**
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
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