Re: Psychology at work: How the Bunny-Boiler boils her bunnies - A must see event...

["Rhonda Lea Kirk" <spunky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Art Deco" <erfc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Rhonda Lea Kirk <spunky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> "Lionel" <usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:16:46 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
>>> <nntp.news@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk <spunky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Thou podgy dunce. Thou
>>>> pox-marked mannish coward. Ye gnashed:
>>>>
>>>>> "DaRkAnGeL" <chaos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:f0k101$glh$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>> <to any reader>
>>>> If you are interested in psychology, this is truly awesome stuff.
>>>> Watch very carefully. There is no snippage from this point on to
>>>> then end of the bunny-boiler's mind-magick trick being exposed
>>>> here:
>>>>
>>>>> And from my point of view, in the absence of the pressure, we'd be
>>>>> fine, I'd be working and we'd be planning my move to Australia.
>>>>
>>>> [^] Take note of the explicit notion of pressure.
>>>>
>>>>>> So, as stupid as it sounds, it seems as though (and again, I
>>>>>> don't have all the facts - I have everyone's perception of the
>>>>>> facts, motivations, and desires - which is all any of you have
>>>>>> as well) if you two could just bloody well forgive each other,
>>>>>> you might have a shot at
>>>>>> reclaiming that love!! At the very least, you could stop giving
>>>>>> each other black eyes on a daily basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, DA, when I was 15, my father beat my face into a hardwood
>>>>> floor, because I told my sister to stay out of my belongings--a
>>>>> typical sibling situation met with violence.
>>>>>
>>>>> I stood up to him. I talked to the social worker at my school,
>>>>> and I was removed from my home to foster care. Although the
>>>>> beating was only the tip of the iceberg, it was sufficient to get
>>>>> me out of the situation.
>>>>
>>>> [^] Step 1. Go back in time to a horrible event. Evoke highly
>>>>            emotive images from said event.
>>>>
>>>>> Since then, I have never hesitated to stand up to anyone who
>>>>> attempts to control me by force.
>>>>
>>>> [^] Step 2. Surreptitiously discard the previous notion of
>>>>            "pressure" and introduce the emotively harsher notion
>>>>            of "control by force."
>>>>
>>>>> I'll do almost anything for love, if I'm asked, but I won't be
>>>>> subjected to force.
>>>>
>>>> [^] Step 3. Conflate the ideas at 1. & 2. and drag the now
>>>>            transmogrified idea across the intervening time spam and
>>>>            apply it to the here and now.
>>>>
>>>> [^] There are two sleights of hand in the entire mind-magick
>>>> operation. Step 3 is where the *first* Svengali manoeuvre is
>>>> actually hidden; the mind image at 1 is from the distant past and
>>>> not related to the present in any way, yet the past is now neatly
>>>> wrapped up in a reference to the present at 2 (qv "Since then"),
>>>> and 2 is the notion that carries the now greatly amplified punch
>>>> that is inherent in the change of the idea of "pressure" into
>>>> "control by force."
>>>>
>>>>> In the case of Rick and me, on top of all the other force,
>>>>
>>>> [^] Step 4: Thus both the real history and the very presence in the
>>>> here and now of the current event are altered by the history of the
>>>> other unrelated event. What remains is an implicit damning
>>>> accusation that is dropped at the feet of the unsuspecting reader
>>>> that is reinforced with the now altered idea of "additional force",
>>>> (qv "on top of all the other force", note that "all the other
>>>> force" is completely undefined; it is nebulous and inherently all
>>>> encompassing.)
>>>>
>>>>> there was this at the very end:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.psychology.psychotherapy/msg/c3777625043
>>>>> aab93
>>>>
>>>> [^] Step 5: This is the *second* Svengali manoeuvre. While the
>>>> reader's head is busy dealing and coping with the horrible scenery
>>>> in the mind image of emotional and physical abuse, the reader's
>>>> attention is immediately taken from the bombshell that was just
>>>> dropped and it is focused firmly on yet another event.
>>>>
>>>> The switch is very quick and the presumably horrified reader has
>>>> likely not seen the *first* switch at all. Thus while still reeling
>>>> from taking in the devastation of the first mind image, and not
>>>> having time to inspect the whole process for soundness, the
>>>> implicit damning accusation is left to set like jello in the
>>>> unsuspecting reader's mind. In short, a "fact" has been created
>>>> from two independent ideas and the unwitting mind is left to
>>>> assume a fact.
>>>>
>>>> <bows to audience>
>>>>
>>>> Now for the encore... major snippage below; the context is not
>>>> relevant. What is relevent is the impact of the statements and
>>>> their implicit intent in light of the mind-magick trick exposed
>>>> above:
>>>>
>>>>> You have this almost exactly the opposite of what it was
>>>>
>>>>> The perception you have never happened, just FYI.
>>>>
>>>> [^] Step 6: Question the reader's perceptions just in case the
>>>> tricks from Step 1 to Step 5 are being quietly churned over and
>>>> analysed in the back of the horrified reader's mind.
>>>>
>>>> <bow>
>>>>
>>>> "The emperor has no clothes."
>>>
>>> Nice work. Given the way Rodenta keeps on spinning in circles &
>>> spewing the same rubbish, the traditional solution is to put
>>> together a FAQ. I think the Bunny Boiler is just about due for one.
>>
>> The matching FAQ will be ready to go. :)
>
> Note:  no response to the expose of the word weaseling.

It's coming. Keep your pants on, Deco. I'm trying to clear out the
one-liners first.

> Tholen does
> exactly the same kind of tricks, although with far fewer words.

I wouldn't miss the opportunity to respond to the original post.

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