Re: Notifier

["Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> I gotta go make an appointment for therapy now.

Make one for me too please. I was just told Elite Trunk Slammer won't fit on
my business card. I can't stand to be one upped by anyone.


"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Sheesh..dunno what freekin catagory I'd fit into...Radx, DMP AND
> Ademco...an
> elite trunkslammer I guess??
> I gotta go make an appointment for therapy now.
> At least I don't do Napco.
>
>
>
> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:460e1779$0$28110$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> |
> |
> | "Milhouse Van Houten" <none@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:hkur03hur9ptkjft5s9hnanta2dh2c66fs@xxxxxxxxxx
> | > Roland Moore wrote:
> | >
> | >>Since it is Honeywell I am surprised they don't try to sell it at ADI.
> | >>
> | >
> | > Maybe they didn't take you to the show for a reason.
> | Yes, I have all the social grqaces but I am not house broken.
> |
> | >You just have a  problem with ADI and their customers, don't you?
> | I don't have a problem with ADI. They send customers our way when they
> get
> | special calls from end users. I thank them properly. Some guys at ADI
> used
> | to work for me many moons ago. I know them all at the local branch. As
> for
> | ADI customers (other dealers) I talk to them politely too when they call
> me
> | for help.
> |
> | >
> | > I have always had the impression you're a fucking elitist because you
> | > deal mainly with Bosch crap.   I've always used bulletproof Silent
> | > Knight dialers, sold at ADI.
> | I am a bit confused. Is there a regular elitist and then one notch down
> to
> | fucking elitist? I could be either I guess. Is it important to know
> which
> | one I am? If not I'll just assume I am which ever is worse in your eyes.
> We
> | are a Bosch BCSD so what would be unusual about using Bosch gear? That
> kind
> | of means by definition I deal mainly with Bosch crap. There is a lot of
> | Bosch crap sold at ADI too. All of the former DS line of motions. DiBos,
> | Divar etc. and nearly all the video line. Access Easy is there too. Are
> you
> | an elitist if you use Bosch from ADI or just if you're a BCSD. We do
> both
> | actually so guilty both ways there too.
> | I have only used a little of the SK gear in my time. I don't like fire
> and
> | SK gave up on burg long ago (except for a proprietary panel that they
> built
> | for the likes of Smith Alarm.) SK seems okay from what little I have
> used.
> I
> | like the Bosch 7024 better because of the upload/download ability and
> the
> | price. The regular Bosch D2071 and D9068 DACT aren't that hot in my
> opinion.
> | I think we have even yanked a few and put in other dialers when the spec
> | allowed.
> | >
> | > Your attitude about dealers who don't install anything except Bosch,
> | > or DMP is wearing thin... similarly to your choices for video.. You
> | > think your way is the only way -- and the rest are somehow inferior
> | > for not adopting an all IP solution from Axis, Bosch, IqEnvison..
> | > etc..  Get fucked.  Your elitist attitude is not well received.
> | >
> | I install Bosch. I have only worked on DMP and removed lots of it. We
> aren't
> | DMP dealers. You'll have to get another elitist named Petem for the real
> up
> | to date DMP scoop. I think another regular poster is on repair status
> with
> | DMP so is a repair status DMP dealer an elitist too?. I know one of the
> ADI
> | tech support guys used to be the DMP tech rep. Can he be redeemed now
> that
> | he is at ADI or is it once a DMP elitist, always an elitist? I think the
> | industry is in a transition now and IP based solutions are going to be
> more
> | common in the future. True, I mention Axis but I never use it however. I
> | have never used Iqenvision or even seen it. I do use BVIP video. It is a
> bit
> | harder to get to sell that even if you're a BCSD. Not using Bosch or DMP
> | doesn't make one a trunk slammer in my view. There is nothing special
> about
> | being a dealer for either really. It is merely a function of dollar
> volume
> | purchases to get and maintain your status. Bosch or DMP couldn't care
> less
> | if you think of yourself as an elitist or not. They just want the money.
> If
> | you don't sell you get the boot, period. Being a trunk slammer in my
> view
> is
> | a function of attitude, not the product line you happen to sell or not
> sell.
> | I think it is important to know the products you do sell and why you
> | continue to sell it over some similar product.  Do you care about your
> | craft? Do you try to keep up to date with the technology? What helps
> make
> a
> | trunk slammer in my view? A guy that's worked a decade in the business
> and
> | doesn't know how to measure a ground, or inductance; or one that can't
> tell
> | a resistor from a choke, or can't hook up a loop with two resistors and
> make
> | it work other than by trial and error. A trunk slammer knows how to call
> the
> | office to find the number for factory tech support. He won't keep
> | installation manuals, and he'll make the same errors again and again,
> even
> | when repeating the same task. I see that kind of guy nearly every time I
> | walk into ADI, SGI, Tri-ed, or Richardson's. Moving to IP video will
> only
> | magnify the problems a trunk slammer faces. Guys will have to know the
> | difference between a token ring and a sonet ring at one end and a MAC
> | address from and IP address at the other. IP video lends itself to
> larger
> | installations which we do a lot of. That means you get lots of
> experience
> on
> | certain aspects of the industry doing a lot of the same sorts of things.
> I
> | don't think that makes us elitists, but you might. I just like to think
> | about what I do in this industry, and think how I can do it better. If
> that
> | makes me an elitist that you think is not well received here so be it.
> Trust
> | me, I can easily live with it from a guy that signs his name as trunk
> | slammer, even in jest.
> | >
> | Yours Truly,
> | Trunk Slammer
> |
> | Is that like that old bumper sticker "Oil field trash and proud of it"?
> I
> am
> | moved.
> |
> | >
> |
> |
>
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