Re: Notifier

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sheesh..dunno what freekin catagory I'd fit into...Radx, DMP AND Ademco...an
elite trunkslammer I guess??
I gotta go make an appointment for therapy now.
At least I don't do Napco.



"Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| "Milhouse Van Houten" <none@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > Roland Moore wrote:
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| >>Since it is Honeywell I am surprised they don't try to sell it at ADI.
| >>
| >
| > Maybe they didn't take you to the show for a reason.
| Yes, I have all the social grqaces but I am not house broken.
|
| >You just have a  problem with ADI and their customers, don't you?
| I don't have a problem with ADI. They send customers our way when they get
| special calls from end users. I thank them properly. Some guys at ADI used
| to work for me many moons ago. I know them all at the local branch. As for
| ADI customers (other dealers) I talk to them politely too when they call
me
| for help.
|
| >
| > I have always had the impression you're a fucking elitist because you
| > deal mainly with Bosch crap.   I've always used bulletproof Silent
| > Knight dialers, sold at ADI.
| I am a bit confused. Is there a regular elitist and then one notch down to
| fucking elitist? I could be either I guess. Is it important to know which
| one I am? If not I'll just assume I am which ever is worse in your eyes.
We
| are a Bosch BCSD so what would be unusual about using Bosch gear? That
kind
| of means by definition I deal mainly with Bosch crap. There is a lot of
| Bosch crap sold at ADI too. All of the former DS line of motions. DiBos,
| Divar etc. and nearly all the video line. Access Easy is there too. Are
you
| an elitist if you use Bosch from ADI or just if you're a BCSD. We do both
| actually so guilty both ways there too.
| I have only used a little of the SK gear in my time. I don't like fire and
| SK gave up on burg long ago (except for a proprietary panel that they
built
| for the likes of Smith Alarm.) SK seems okay from what little I have used.
I
| like the Bosch 7024 better because of the upload/download ability and the
| price. The regular Bosch D2071 and D9068 DACT aren't that hot in my
opinion.
| I think we have even yanked a few and put in other dialers when the spec
| allowed.
| >
| > Your attitude about dealers who don't install anything except Bosch,
| > or DMP is wearing thin... similarly to your choices for video.. You
| > think your way is the only way -- and the rest are somehow inferior
| > for not adopting an all IP solution from Axis, Bosch, IqEnvison..
| > etc..  Get fucked.  Your elitist attitude is not well received.
| >
| I install Bosch. I have only worked on DMP and removed lots of it. We
aren't
| DMP dealers. You'll have to get another elitist named Petem for the real
up
| to date DMP scoop. I think another regular poster is on repair status with
| DMP so is a repair status DMP dealer an elitist too?. I know one of the
ADI
| tech support guys used to be the DMP tech rep. Can he be redeemed now that
| he is at ADI or is it once a DMP elitist, always an elitist? I think the
| industry is in a transition now and IP based solutions are going to be
more
| common in the future. True, I mention Axis but I never use it however. I
| have never used Iqenvision or even seen it. I do use BVIP video. It is a
bit
| harder to get to sell that even if you're a BCSD. Not using Bosch or DMP
| doesn't make one a trunk slammer in my view. There is nothing special
about
| being a dealer for either really. It is merely a function of dollar volume
| purchases to get and maintain your status. Bosch or DMP couldn't care less
| if you think of yourself as an elitist or not. They just want the money.
If
| you don't sell you get the boot, period. Being a trunk slammer in my view
is
| a function of attitude, not the product line you happen to sell or not
sell.
| I think it is important to know the products you do sell and why you
| continue to sell it over some similar product.  Do you care about your
| craft? Do you try to keep up to date with the technology? What helps make
a
| trunk slammer in my view? A guy that's worked a decade in the business and
| doesn't know how to measure a ground, or inductance; or one that can't
tell
| a resistor from a choke, or can't hook up a loop with two resistors and
make
| it work other than by trial and error. A trunk slammer knows how to call
the
| office to find the number for factory tech support. He won't keep
| installation manuals, and he'll make the same errors again and again, even
| when repeating the same task. I see that kind of guy nearly every time I
| walk into ADI, SGI, Tri-ed, or Richardson's. Moving to IP video will only
| magnify the problems a trunk slammer faces. Guys will have to know the
| difference between a token ring and a sonet ring at one end and a MAC
| address from and IP address at the other. IP video lends itself to larger
| installations which we do a lot of. That means you get lots of experience
on
| certain aspects of the industry doing a lot of the same sorts of things. I
| don't think that makes us elitists, but you might. I just like to think
| about what I do in this industry, and think how I can do it better. If
that
| makes me an elitist that you think is not well received here so be it.
Trust
| me, I can easily live with it from a guy that signs his name as trunk
| slammer, even in jest.
| >
| Yours Truly,
| Trunk Slammer
|
| Is that like that old bumper sticker "Oil field trash and proud of it"? I
am
| moved.
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| >
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