Re: new pad

[secure15 <secure15@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

fenwayfool wrote:
> Thanks, Nick.  After reading the programmers guide that's what I
> figured.  I think my key fob presents another hurdle.
Listen to Mr. Markowitz-he's a well respected Dealer with years of
EXPERIENCE: which you lack. He also is highly experienced with ADEMCO
Products. Violate ADT's Contract like has been stated and be prepared
for shit to hit the fan.
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> Seems like a lot of people who work in the security industry read this
> board, eh?  :-)
Yes they do- and they come across people like you everyday.
>
> For the record, I do think $70 for a single wireless sensor is too
> much.
For MY record I'm sick of Customers looking for something for nothing!
But I bet you pay $85/hr to your car mechanic; $49.99 a month for cable,
How about a cell phone? Oh, those are ok charges.
The sensor may COST ADT $30- should THEY drive to your house, install it
and test it for $40? No problem- no overhead: gas, mileage, insurance,
Workman's Comp, parts acquisition, training etc- that's all FREE!

   I would prefer it if the security companies would make the
> devices easier to use and then simply sell extras online.
Security Companies (ie Dealers/Installers) don't MAKE the Devices so
they don't have anything to do with "making it easier". That's the
Manufacturers job!
Yes you can buy "extras" from some here that play DIY."Proceed with Caution"
There is some difficulty to programming systems- IT"S WHY IT"S MADE FOR
PROFESSIONALS WITH TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE.
>

  For example, I can buy a pack of wireless sensors on eBay (10 for
$200)...
> that's $20 each folks.
I can buy them there too. Problem is I have no assurance that what I'm
buying works, and I have no recourse if it doesn't.
That's why Legitimate dealers buy from reputable sources like supply
houses: SOME of which only sell to Licensed Contractors.

Then I could add them myself.
  Yes, you could TRY- and may alter something else unwittingly, negate
something, put your property and family at risk; all because YOU DON"T
KNOW WHAT YOUR'E DOING!
  Difference is I'm TRAINED IN HOW TO USE THEM, INSTALL THEM PROPERLY,
TEST ALL OF IT PROPERLY AND HAVE A BALL ATTACHED TO MY LEG- A LICENSE
WHICH MAKES ME RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT!


ADT makes $200,
> and my inner control freak is happy.
I'm sure you want to DIY your Central Station too:
For $5.00 a month, your cost.


If people can put a
> wireless LinkSys router in their home, they can stick a sensor on a
> window and add its address to the panel.
Yeah, and you can get in the cockpit of a 747 and fly that too- cause
you were up in a Cessna 152 once.
"Just stick it on a window" and add an address- NO, there is a bit more
to it that that!
That GOD you don't fart with Fire Alarms- or do you?
>
> Just seems to me that most of what makes doing this stuff yourself
> comes from security thru obscurity
Yep It's not designed with the homeowner in mind for CRITICAL programming.

... and it does not have to be that
> way.
Who says- You're the new expert installer?

.. unless of course, you install alarm systems for a living...
> which is fine.
I do, and Yes I'm fine with it too.
   I prefer to do it myself.
And I prefer that homeowners not FUCK with stuff they know nothing
about. Does your car mechanic let you use his garage and tools for free
to fix your transmission by yourself?
Does you Cable Company let you run the line from the pole to your house
so you can save the service call$?
Bottom line- stop being a cheap SOB and let a Professional handle it-
Whether ADT or someone else- their job is knowing the RIGHT WAY TO DO IT!
Oh yeah "fenwayfool" - Bill Buckner Forever!

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