Re: Window Foil

["Just Looking" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Customers seem a little more careful these days. They don't typically stack
high value merchandise (or beer, liquor, or cigarettes) right next to a
window like in the foil days. Jewelry stores don't leave expensive watches
or other jewelry in the windows. I don't think glass is seen as a hard
threshold perimeter like before. I remember the days of not only window
foil, but big wide wall foil, lace wire, pull traps and shock sensors to try
to detect the bad guy BEFORE he got in. Now it just bug the doors, toss in a
couple of  motions and a GBD or two, and that was passes for security. Bug
the safe? Never happen, the motions will get him, right? If you bid a job
with the kind of coverage you used to see done you wouldn't get much
business. You might not need as much since every job would take a whole lot
longer.

"Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Dec 18, 12:54?pm, ssokoly <alarmdud...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Matthew Stanley wrote:
> > I did a window foil job today for a customer I have. He has a store
front
> > that has 4' wide by 8' tall single pane glass windows in the front. A
total
> > of 4. 2 on each side..
>
> > My question is, how many guy out there still do foil jobs and what do
you
> > charge?
>
> > Hourly, by each window, by job etc......
>
> > I'm kinda interested because I would like to do more foil jobs. I have
> > always liked foil over window bugs and what not.
>
> > M
>
> You're joking right? Foiling is a lost art for very good reasons. 1.
> Technology has advanced. 2. Most Suppliers don't have foil anymore since
> Brooklyn Foil went out of business. 3. Headaches Headaches Headaches.
> 4. There is no 4 5.Window washers.
>
> My consensus is usually this, if the customer that we takeover has foil
> and its in good condition we leave it. If it starts causing a problem
> its gone and replaced with Sentrol 5150's or an acoustic glassbreak.-


Coming from the time when there were no "foil blocks" and there were
only brass takeoffs and soldering, I find it amusing to see all the
negative things that everyone finds about foiling. Not that they
aren't true. But the amusing part is .... that eveyone (most/many) has
been brain washed into thinking that glass break detectors are just as
good as foil. And some people (much younger, of course) actually think
that glass break detectors are BETTER than foil.

Not that I don't use glass breaks, but at least I provide for the
necessary redundancy that those who don't even *think* about the short
coming of glass break detectors, don't provide to their clients. I see
it all the time. That big gaping hole in the detection, in most
commercial installations nowdays.

And not surprisingly, no one has mentioned it in this thread either.