Re: OT: Physicians for a National Health Program

[Frank Olson <use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jim wrote:
> On Dec 16, 4:10�pm, JoeRaisin <joerai...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Edmund Fitzgerald wrote:
>>> Let me say it again. �Pure Horeshit. �There are no organizations of
>>> Christian crusaders running amuck all over the world beheading and blowing
>>> up whoever they please.
>> Unless you count abortion clinics - but your point is made there as well
>> since mainstream Christian organizations condemn it.
>>
>>> First off I've not convinced pouring water down someone's nose is torture.
>>> Liberals, and perhaps yourself, tend to think anything that that makes
>>> someone the least bit uncomfortable is torture. �Islamic Jihadist, as you
>>> may have noticed, behead their captives, mutilate their bodies, and hang
>>> them up on public display. �Liberals, for some reason, don't seem to
>>> consider what the Jihadists do to be torture, or at least you never hear one
>>> say so.
>> Give me a few hours of water boarding and I guarantee that I could have
>> you confessing to being a serial pedophile cannibal and implicating any
>> number of your family, friends or colleagues as members of your enterprise.
>>
>> You would also swear that your confession was totally coerced and given
>> freely.
>>
>> The point being that if you are going to torture someone for
>> information, you better be sure they are in possession of said
>> information or they will make stuff up to get you to stop.
>
>
> Bet you that they only make stuff up the first time.
>
> Once being caught not telling the truth, they certainly know what's in
> store the second time around and the fervor of the interrogators.
>
> Waterboarding has a distinct advantage over terminal torture in that
> it can be repeated and there's no permanent physical damage.
>
> Which means, that the person who is being interrogated can anticipate
> it being repeated if they don't tell the truth. Which says, that if
> they've got any sense at all, they'll tell the truth the first time
> around.
>
> Sounds pretty humane to me.


Some of you guys are weird.  :-)