Re: Installation/Upgrade info needed for Safewatch Pro 3000EN, from Tyco / ADT

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

2200 bucks would not be an unfair price to pay for a system of that scope.

It's not a scam, if you go on their website and price it out you'll see the
charge 70 bucks for each door/window, so they're charging  you half...seems
fair to me.

You won't find a reliable/reputable/ethical company to work on a system that
is under contract with someone else (ADT), so you may have to do this
yourself and hope ADT will accept your level of workmanship.

He doesn't like you he likes your money...it's just business. That's what
you get with a big company...you're just a source of revenue. Rip off?...nah
just a for-profit company.

ADT is not gonna supply you with programming instructions. They may not even
take your zoning if you are able to program it...they may insist on
programming it...I would.



<awetrwerewr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1185940723.096669.97470@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| On Jul 31, 2:10 pm, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| wrote:
| > What do you mean...35 doors/windows and only two wires to hook up? Does
that
| > mean you have 17.5 doors and windows on each wire? Did you put the
switches
| > on already?
| >
| > <a...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| >
| > news:1185912957.055900.139900@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | On Jul 30, 10:03 pm, Frank Olson <Use-the-email-|
li...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| > | > awetrwer...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
| >
| > | > > I'm looking for an installation manual, a website or other
information
| > | > > for the following alarm system:
| > | >
| > | > > Safewatch Pro 3000EN, from Tyco / ADT
| > | >
| > | > > I'm looking for exact information (preferably in printed form) on
| > | > > installing a second, or even a third keyboard, as well as
additional
| > | > > door, window, glass breakage, and motion sensors.  Please be
| > | > > considerate and only post if you are able to add constructive
| > | > > information.
| > | >
| > | > > This appears to be a disappointingly cheap system. At this point I
am
| > | > > stuck with it. I will not pay $35 to have the door and window
sensors
| > | > > I already ran in new construction simply connected to the circuit
| > | > > board.
| > | >
| > | > Most professionals here would be reluctant to give you such
information
| > | > particularly as it appears that you may still be under contract to
ADT.
| > | >   The Safewatch Pro is an Ademco Panel that's been slightly modified
for
| > | > use exclusively by ADT.  You will need a full alpha keypad (6139 or
| > | > 6160) to program they system.  You will have to assign the keypad an
| > | > address (not currently in use by the other keypads on the system),
and
| > | > enroll the keypad into the system (in other words, tell the unit
that
| > | > it's there).  As to the specific manual, you'll have to find out
what
| > | > the equivalent Ademco Panel is.  Even when you do, some of the
address
| > | > fields may be different.  I doubt any ADT techs would even consider
| > | > giving you a manual.- Hide quoted text -
| > | >
| > | > - Show quoted text -
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | Frank you appear knowledgeable. Any idea how to find if there is an
| > | equivalent. I must say, the salesmen was aware of the 35 doors and
| > | windows I had prewired. I see now he figured I'd be locked into ADT
| > | and have no choice but to pay them $1200 to connect the doors and
| > | windows, plus keyboards. $35 to connect two wires. Common, that's past
| > | flat-out ripping you off.
| > |
| > |
| > | --thanks frank
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
|
|
|
| Sorry I don't understand your question. I have about 30-35 doors and
| windows. Each door and window has a magnetic switch already install.
| This is new construction. Each uses two conductors so actually that's
| maybe 70 or so conductors. ADT actually expects me to pay $35 to
| connect the two conducts up to the circuit board for each and every
| door and window. That's $1000-$1200. This could not talk two hours to
| do and they want over $1k??? Oh, maybe it's the series resistor that
| cost so much??? (That was a joke).
|
| I thought ADT was a good company. Right now I think ADT is nothing but
| a scam. I paid $375 for this. They wanted I think $2200 with two of
| the lowest priced keypads they have. One sold on ebay the other day
| for $10. This isn't high-tech stuff. ADT appears to sell crap.
|
| The salesmen knew I didn't want to pay his company another $1k or so
| but evidently he sold me the system knowing very well that ADT will
| die before they will every give up any info for me to do this. Gee,
| and I thought he "liked" me.
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