Re: Dammit.. How to get 2 zones and power from a 4-conductor

["Kadaitcha Man" <nntp.news@xxxxxxxxx>]

Nelson Muntz <none@xxxxxxxxx> Thou scornful piece. All that is within
him does condemn itself for being there. Ye barfed:

> Bud wrote:
>
>>
>> "Nelson Muntz" <none@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:4nkf23lvne1rma3d1hqkpc7513b7ljas6o@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> So I just finished this job with 5 home-run motions to the CP.  As I
>>> was doing training I told him about the tamper switches on the
>>> motions IS25100TC (front and back) that I wired in series with the
>>> alarm contacts.  He thought that was great - then added, "so I'll
>>> be able to know right away when someone knocks the thing off the
>>> wall, right?". Of course the answer is 'no'.  I never planned on
>>> putting the tampers on a separate 24 hour zone - otherwise I would
>>> have run 6 conductor. Now he wants that "feature", and the trick
>>> for sharing a 'common' wire for power and zone won't work as far as
>>> I can tell.  Am I correct, or is there a way to do it without
>>> running more wire?
>>>
>>
>> correct me if I'm wrong.  you said the motions are tampered to the
>> wall and the cover.  so if a motion gets knocked off the wall the
>> zone will be open. this will alert the owner of the problem.  if so
>> then you have no problem. do not think the owner has the tech
>> expertise that you possess.  he doesn't know about tamper zones or
>> deol.  don't make your job harder by assuming he does.  he just
>> needs to know that if a zone is faulted to go check it to see whats
>> wrong. right?
>>
>
>
> It's a strange situation.  This is the same one I posted about with
> the $500 budget.
>
> It's a mini-storage.  The manager lives on-site. We finally agreed
> (grudgingly) that a noisemaker would sound if someone ( or a bird,
> roach, or spider) was in the 3-story building I would provide a  loud
> noise.  That's it.  I do not consider this a security system at all..
> I used the Vista-15P panel purely because it's logic ability that
> could not be replicated cheaper with relays.
>
> Our agreement was that this thing WILL false alarm, and often.  It is
> not monitored or course.  Now he want's to catch vandals in real time
> - with my PIR's as bait.  That was never part of the deal.  I am
> already losing money on this shit.

You're a perpetual failure, Graham, and while you're sitting there lamenting
the loss of a few bucks you're being taunted by a black man who earns six
figures. Sucks to be you, hey.

> I should have never done it.

Did you ever imagine that those words would come back to haunt you, racist
netK0oK? Hmmm?

> The whole issue with tampers came up when I was doing the training. I
> told him that they are tampered front and back - he thought that was
> great and assumed a tamper situation meant he would be alerted during
> the day.

So much for your communication skills, eh, grammar lamer.

I did tell you I was black, right?

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