Re: NRA

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Apr 20, 1:43 pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 11:00?pm, "Tommy" <tommy at leesecurity.net> wrote:
>
> > > Yesterday a young man named Cho Seung-hui exercised his 2nd Amendment
> > > rights and showed 32 people he won't be pushed around.
>
> > Yes he did. he purchased a firearm legally and then used it to commit a

> > heinous crime. Was it the sellers fault? the School's? ?The nation's?
> > Your's? Mine?
> > That the guy was mentally unstable is very apparent now, but he passed all
> > the criteria for the purchase. when a person is fanatical, as he seemed to
> > be, you cannot guard against that. no laws, cameras, or alarm systems can
> > guard against someone who doesn't value human life.
>
> That doesn't make any difference to liberals. They think they'll make
> a good impression by calling for more gun laws that only affect law
> abiding citizens.
> They lament .... well if it saves the life of OOOOOOONE  person, it's
> worth passing unenforceable laws that affect 5 million law abiding
> people.
>
> These events always seems to ignore the fact that someone like this
> psychotic could have disabled the fire alarms and set the dorms on
> fire at night, Set pipe bombs around to go off in highly populated
> areas. Could have run into classes chopping people to death with
> machetes or serialy abducting and killing people over a long period of
> time by suffocation.
>
I've been following this horrible event as has everyone else, and now
that all the "talking heads" have finished with their two bit amateur
analysis, and the real facts are coming in, some things seem
inevitable. Those who would see more gun control are as usual climbing
on their favourite hobby horse (to quote the Virginia governor) and
pushing their personal agendas. Even here in Canada, the usual crowd
are calling for additional controls !!

And just so you know what Canadians have to do to get a handgun right
now, let me tell you. 1- Pass a government sanctioned training course
that is different from long guns and more stringent 2- Apply for a PAL
(Possession and Aquisition License), good for five years, and only
obtained after you have been investigated by the police, after your
spouse signs off you are mentally sound and no danger to her, and you
get references from someone in authority...and finally pay $80 and
wait for six to 10 weeks for the permit to come in the mail. Then you
trundle down to your local gunshop, choose your gun (assuming he even
has one you want), pay your money, and call the Canadian Firearms
Centre to get an ATT (Authorization to Transport)...takes a week or
so, which allows you a few hours to pick it up and take it back to the
place where it is registered to be stored (usually your home).
Now....this gun cannot leave the premises without another permit, and
can only be TRANSPORTED under lock and key, with a trigger lock to an
authorized range to be shot. While in the house, it must be secured in
a gun safe. And that permit is only available through the range, and
is good for one year....this is a straight line from your home to the
club and back only. If you are caught doing anything unlawful in the
way of carrying outside the bounds of your permit, you lose it, plus
your freedom for five years. AND THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR SOME !! Also,
bear in mind that bureaucrats have been given the power to make
additional restrictions as they see fit without the need to seek
government approval (this is perhaps the scariest part of our horrible
mess of laws - not even considering the $2 billion dollar long gun
registry which is hopelessly snarled in red tape, politics, inaccurate
records and government bureaucracy).

At the height of the news about this massacre, Canadian gun control
advocates were pressing the government once again for more gun
control. The mayor of Toronto is calling for an outright ban on
handguns in Canada, to follow what a desperate Liberal Prime Minister
was calling for during the last election. The Liberal government's
official position is to ban all "semi automatic" firearms, as is that
of the far left socialist party the NDP (amazing to anyone of sound
mind how gun control advocates always dwell on insignificant issues
like different action types, as if the type of firearm being used as a
weapon had something to do with it's misuse....)

None of this stopped a madman from killing 19 women in one incident
and another madman from shooting and killing another student at
schools in Montreal, plus another couple of shootings that I can think
of out west, and also in Germany.

Bottom line, this guy gave off all the signals and no one picked up on
it. So rather than deal with the real problems, every gun hater and
urban paranoid drags out their favourite red herring and legal gun
owners end up having to duck once again.

After 40 years of fighting this shit in Canada, I think I've seen it
all....there are some truisms in this gun control debate which cross
all borders and cultures:

1- No amount of gun control is good enough for some people
2- Whether you believe it or not, their ultimate goal is the total
abolition of all firearms from the hands of ordinary citizens (see UN
resolution for proof of that)
3- The push for gun control will always increase and they will
ultimately win big time (as they have in Canada) unless every shooter
and legal gun owner stands up and fights like hell to keep these
dreamers at bay.
4- Gun control advocates love statistics, and use them at every
opportunity to distort facts to suit their goals.
5- With the misuse of firearms portrayed daily on TV and in movies, it
is not likely that the non shooting urban masses will ever come to see
things the way we do. That part is a losing proposition.
5- Politicians of all stripes have shown they are incapable of dealing
rationally and fairly with this issue. They are not to be trusted -
period !! The only thing that keeps them at bay is POLITICAL POWER
within the shooting community and their risk of not being elected if
they alienate gun owners!!

Frankly, you guys in the USA don't know how lucky you are to have a
strong NRA with a Second Amendment to give you some protection in law.
But you can still never take anything for granted. What they can't win
through the front door, they will sneak in through the back, one small
step at a time. Frankly, I'm looking forward to moving to Florida for
half the year where I can shoot all I want without looking over my
shoulder for a cop. Down in Florida, the only cop around will likely
be shooting on the range right along with me.

RHC


> All of which would have still had some Democrap standing up in front
> of the Senate calling for more gun control.
>
> Certainly a trigger guard would have prevented this terrible event.
> What harm could it do to pass a law like that?  Why for sure, if
> someone didn't use their trigger guard and another person was harmed
> because of it, we could prosecute the gun owner. Of course, the dead
> person would still be dead, however.
>
> But to keep it in line with the Democraps way of thinking, it would
> foster the creation of ANOTHER govenment agency called the In Home
> Trigger Guard Checking Police, to make sure the law was being obeyed.
> This agency would also have jurisdiction over the removal of "Do not
> remove" pillow tags.