Re: Dammit.. How to get 2 zones and power from a 4-conductor

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

So...just tell him you don't provide tamper service for a local
account...it's GONNA be a pita for you anyway you know that right?



"Nelson Muntz" <none@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Bud wrote:
|
| >
| >"Nelson Muntz" <none@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| >news:4nkf23lvne1rma3d1hqkpc7513b7ljas6o@xxxxxxxxxx
| >> So I just finished this job with 5 home-run motions to the CP.  As I
| >> was doing training I told him about the tamper switches on the motions
| >> IS25100TC (front and back) that I wired in series with the alarm
| >> contacts.  He thought that was great - then added, "so I'll be able to
| >> know right away when someone knocks the thing off the wall, right?".
| >> Of course the answer is 'no'.  I never planned on putting the tampers
| >> on a separate 24 hour zone - otherwise I would have run 6 conductor.
| >> Now he wants that "feature", and the trick for sharing a 'common' wire
| >> for power and zone won't work as far as I can tell.  Am I correct, or
| >> is there a way to do it without running more wire?
| >>
| >
| >correct me if I'm wrong.  you said the motions are tampered to the wall
and
| >the cover.  so if a motion gets knocked off the wall the zone will be
open.
| >this will alert the owner of the problem.  if so then you have no
problem.
| >do not think the owner has the tech expertise that you possess.  he
doesn't
| >know about tamper zones or deol.  don't make your job harder by assuming
he
| >does.  he just needs to know that if a zone is faulted to go check it to
see
| >whats wrong. right?
| >
|
|
| It's a strange situation.  This is the same one I posted about with
| the $500 budget.
|
| It's a mini-storage.  The manager lives on-site. We finally agreed
| (grudgingly) that a noisemaker would sound if someone ( or a bird,
| roach, or spider) was in the 3-story building I would provide a  loud
| noise.  That's it.  I do not consider this a security system at all..
| I used the Vista-15P panel purely because it's logic ability that
| could not be replicated cheaper with relays.
|
| Our agreement was that this thing WILL false alarm, and often.  It is
| not monitored or course.  Now he want's to catch vandals in real time
| - with my PIR's as bait.  That was never part of the deal.  I am
| already losing money on this shit.  I should have never done it.
|
| The whole issue with tampers came up when I was doing the training. I
| told him that they are tampered front and back - he thought that was
| great and assumed a tamper situation meant he would be alerted during
| the day.