Re: Good news for US -- Secure Fence Act of 2006

["Robert L Bass" <robertbass1@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:b0fdaf231b07e5161200c5a9b8ab979a@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Bass said:
>
>>The project is a waste anyway.  They'll just tunnel under it or ram
>>through it like they do all the time in places where there already is a
>>fence.
>
> Therefore, we should just disband the Border Patrol, since the illegals
> will just come in anyway?

No, moron.  I said the fence is a waste.  The border patrol is a useful tool.

> Fences work great, if you build a good enough fence...

If that were true you wouldn't have a job.

> The Great Wall of
> China, for example.

Nice tourist attraction.

> Yeah, what the hell, let's just stand by and do
> nothing while tens of millions of illegal aliens
> invade our country.  After all, if I come home
> some night and find a stranger in my living room,
> I should let him stay, because "all he wants to
> do is sleep."

I'm not interested in your marital problems.

> Meanwhile, they breed like rabbits...

--- Snip racist drivel ---

> and all their kids are automatically U.S. citizens,
> because the kids were born here.  It's not only
> an invasion, but a geometrically increasing influx.

That's probably about the the same thing that the Navaho said about us.  :^)

> Like all the pro-illegal groups, you lump legal
> and illegal immigrants into one category, and
> then say that America is a nation of immigrants....

I hate to burst your bubble, Bubba, but we *are* a nation of immigrants.  I kind of like it that way.

> The point is, American citizens should control
> how much immigration is allowed.  We shouldn't
> let the illegal aliens make that determination.

We don't let immigrants decide.  The point of the discussion isn't whether we have laws.  It's whether we waste hundreds of millions
(probbably billions by the time it's actually built) of dollars on yet another pork barrel project that will do nothing to enhance
our security.

> Billions of people throughout the world would
> dearly love to come to the United States and work...

Whereas, millions of our own citizens prefer to live off the fat of the land.  It's a sad state of affairs, but building a fence
across the southern border won't fix anything.

> Seal the borders, and let Americans decide how
> many immigrants they are willing to let into this
> country.  It is, after all, our country, not theirs.

IMO the best option propounded so far is to provide a "worker permit" for those who want to come in and do migrant work or whatever.
The reality is that we already have such a program for technically competent immigrants.  It's called an H1B card (might be a hyphen
in there somewhere).  American employers have to demonstrate that they have made a good faith effort to secure the services of a US
citizen to fulfill a job and have found no one ready, willing and able.  They can then petition USCIS for H1B status for a qualified
immigrant.  One of our friends is a tri-lingual engineering specialist who came from Brazil ten or twelve years ago on an H1B.  He
works hard, pays taxes and contributes to the local economy just like any citizen.  The only difference is he can't vote.  Having
raised his children here (one born an American citizen and the other born in Brazil), he has now received permanent residency and is
getting ready for his citizenship oath.

Being multi-lingual and open-minded about other cultures, I've gotten to know many people from other countries who live in my
community.  Most are a positive influence.  Most just want to live peaceful, quiet lives with the opportunity to care for their
families without fear of repression or insurmountable hurdles of poverty and violence where they came from.  Given that many of our
own citizens don't contribute anything at all to our society, I prefer to find a lawful way to help people like these.

Don't deliberately misinterpret what I say (something you routinely do) about this.  I believe we should have and enforce tough
immigration laws.  I believe we need to make a real effort to keep out those who want to do us harm.  It's just that this stupid
fence won't do anything but line the pockets of a bunch of rich political contributors.  It won't stop or even slow illegal
immigration.  Note that none of the 9/11 terrorists walked in from Mexico.  They all flew here on commercial airliners.  A few have
apparently been able to pass back and forth through the Canadian border without so much as a nod from customs agents there.  Worse
yet, the 5,000-mile Canadian border is completely unmanned along vast stretches of forest.  Boats wander across the great lakes
every day, landing in small US towns without any customs patrol at all.  TTBOMK, there has not been a single documented account of a
terrorist entering the US from Mexico, there have been several arrests of people who were planning to do things like blow up the
Space Needle.  They came in through Canada.

If we want to do something to truly enhance border security rather than just make another give-away of billions of dollars to fat
cat political donors, we should take our soldiers out of Iraq and station them along our own borders.  At least there they could
defend a country we care about.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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