Re: another newbie, what to do with this Brinks alarm system?

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

There was that little old lady on the news a few weeks ago...popped the
burglar twice while he was in the house then popped him again on the way
out. Cops said she was a pretty good shot. Problem is he lived, he'll
probably sue her now.


"Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:xqm3h.5587$lx6.4246@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| You forgot that when you get a professionally installed alarm system you
get
| free toe tags if you pay a year in advance. In our state you must properly
| tag the game you kill. I bet Boone and Crockett will have some trophy
point
| system really soon.
| Also in our state all you have to be is threatened with serious bodily
harm.
| No need to let him come inside the house. Oh yes you can shoot them in the
| back too if they are a fleeing felon, which includes almost any property
| crime after dark you witness. But you still have to tag them and no extra
| points Boone and Crockett are issued. Now if someone would come up with a
| free ammo with monitoring deal that would be sweet.
| I know you wrote your post tongue in cheek, and I responded in kind, but
| what you suggest actually happened not to far from here. The home owner
| waited patiently while the bad guy pried open his back door with a simple
| screw driver. The home owner literally cut him into with a shotgun blast
| (both barrels). Since the home owner was not hispanic and the guy that
broke
| in was, there was some buzz about it. Everyone complianed the home owner
was
| too blood thirsty and hated minorities and should have held the guy there
at
| gun point until the cops arrive. In his own way I guess he kind of did
make
| the bad guy stay there until the cops arrived. He was no billed by the
grand
| jury of course. I think the home owner tried to file suit against the bad
| guy's estate for the broken door and clean up costs too. That's pretty
hard
| core. At least he didn't field dress the bad guy's corpse and claim the
pelt
| to try to sell pieces of it on ebay.
|
| "RobertM" <Reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:eikoa2$mvm$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >I think most people misunderstand the purpose of an alarm system. The
sole
| >purpose is to give the homeowner enough warning so he can grab his
shotgun
| >and send the mothers into the next county when they break in. To be legal
I
| >must let them enter the house and be facing me and I must feel
threatened.
| >That's a given because no thief breaks in to wish the homeowner a
pleasant
| >evening. No fair shooting a thief in the back unless one is good at body
| >disposal and cleanup.
| >
| > Bob
| >
| > "J. @netscape.net>" <jsloud2001<removeme> wrote in message
| > news:upjnk2do56kass64lq0f8ja2dodarkkui5@xxxxxxxxxx
| >>
| >>
| >> A burglar alarm does not guarantee a family's safety.  That's a
| >> terrible perception that depends on the public's misinformed ideas
| >> about how residential burglar alarm systems work and the effectiveness
| >> of police agencies that usually despise the alarm companies who waste
| >> police resources with a 90% false alarm rate.  Your not protecting
| >> your family with a $30 a month burglar alarm system.  All you're doing
| >> is giving yourself a false sense of security.  Almost all residential
| >> alarm signals are false alarms.  The vast majority of alarm company
| >> generated police dispatches are for false alarms.  Alarm calls receive
| >> the lowest police dispatch priority.  Some jurisdictions have stopped
| >> responding to alarm signals at all.  Others charge a permitting fee
| >> and a steep false alarm penalty.   You can debate the reasons for this
| >> and who's fault it is, but the fact remains, this industry depends on
| >> a misguided public perception of mysterious, circling 1's and 0's that
| >> protect families with magical powers and instantaneous response from
| >> concerned law enforcement.  This is what is shown on television
| >> commercials and what the alarm salesmen tell the unsuspecting public.
| >>
| >> The good news is that there is pressure on the industry to fix this.
| >> There are emerging technologies such as video analytics that could
| >> replace traditional security systems with much more reliable
| >> technology.  The false alarm penalties and third party alarm response
| >> laws will force the trunkslammers and zero down marketers to rethink
| >> their strategies.  My guess is that we'll see the most radical shift
| >> that we've ever experiences in this industry within the next 5 to 10
| >> years.  With IT companies like IBM and Cisco wanted part of the
| >> security integration market, it's just a matter of time before someone
| >> comes alaong and does it better that what we have right now.  It's
| >> already started in the high end goverment/ industrial markets.
| >>
| >> J.
| >>
| >> On 3 Nov 2006 15:06:36 -0800, "Everywhere Man" <alarminstall@xxxxxxx>
| >> wrote:
| >> .
| >>>All of the Brinks negatives aside look at what this guy is saying. He
| >>>lives in a nice neighborhood, so the house wasn't cheap, he's having a
| >>>hard time justifying $27 a month for family safety, and he's making the
| >>>world aware of this on his $1000.00 computer which accesses the
| >>>internet for probably $25 a month.
| >>>Talk about having fucked up priorities.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>Crash Gordon wrote:
| >>>> Basically you throw out the alarm panel and the keypads and buy
| >>>> something
| >>>> else you can install your self. Everything else should be reusable
| >>>> although
| >>>> you might have to look for buried resistors if they put them at the
end
| >>>> of
| >>>> the line and remove them.
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> <todd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:843b90jvbk.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>> |
| >>>> | Hello,
| >>>> |
| >>>> | I'm new here as well, and have looked for a FAQ for the group and
| >>>> came
| >>>> | up empty, and I hope my question isn't too basic!
| >>>> |
| >>>> | I've recently moved into a home that has a Brinks alarm system
| >>>> | installed, looks to have been installed in 2004.  We opted not to
| >>>> | continue the rather pricey monthly monitoring service given the
| >>>> | neighborhood, and the proportion of time we spend at home.  (The
| >>>> prior
| >>>> | owners I'm told were working out of the country and had it
installed
| >>>> | due to their absence).
| >>>> |
| >>>> | Anyway, we have all this hardware, wired door and window sensors,
| >>>> | other sensors labeled as "PIR" devices (passive infrared if my
| >>>> | research is to believed?) inside the control box that I assume are
| >>>> the
| >>>> | motion detectors I see up on the walls of various locations in the
| >>>> | house.  I'm thinking there's got to be a way to put all these
goodies
| >>>> | to use with a do it yourself sort of setup that maybe could
leverage
| >>>> | an internet or phone connection to call my cell phone in case of
| >>>> | trouble.
| >>>> |
| >>>> | The main box of the alarm has a circuit board that's about 8x4"
with
| >>>> | no real identifying marks on it.  I would have to assume I'd have
to
| >>>> | get a new controller board for the DIY system and then just re-use
| >>>> all
| >>>> | the existing sensors?
| >>>> |
| >>>> | Anyone with experience doing the same?
| >>>> |
| >>>> | Thanks for any insight or advice, or a pointer to some good
jumpstart
| >>>> | resources for reading/research.
| >>>> |
| >>>> | Best Regards,
| >>>> | Todd
| >>
| >
| >
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