Re: RH Campbell - Talk about price gouging

["R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Actually, my comments were directed to both posts, but aimed primarily at
the other post, and no real criticism was really intended - just a tongue in
cheek comment. I'm not really in the DIY market at all; as I said, I just
put the page up as an experiment to prove a couple of things to myself.
Frankly,  I don't care about selling DIY; I'm much too busy putting in
professional systems to ever be concerned with that tiny part of the
security business.

And you're welcome....:))

RHC

"Stanley Barthfarkle" <sbarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I think you're admonishing the wrong guy- the OP may have been criticising,
>but I merely stated that overpriced items are a good thing for those of us
>who charge fair market value. It's a free market society, and I like it
>that way. Nope, the high priced sellers help me- it's the lowball
>discounters who hurt my pocketbook, so Thank You.
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> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Actually your right ! Just about anyone else's prices are a good deal
>> compared to mine when comparing just the prices themselves. I originally
>> put up a  DIY page on my website some time ago, and as I say on my site,
>> my prices are high....VERY high. But if you also read correctly, and were
>> not so quick to take things out of context, you will also see there are
>> conditions... I sell only in the local Ottawa area, I can design the
>> system for him on site, and I supply TOTAL support to the DIY'er, even
>> delivering the equipment. I will assist the client in just about
>> everything except running the wire and actually doing the installation
>> work. And I tell him right up front that my prices are higher than he can
>> get on the internet (or just about anywhere else for that matter).
>> There's nothing hidden here !
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>> So if he still chooses to buy DIY from me, he knows what to expect,
>> including premium pricing. I will also be the first to tell you that I
>> have sold very little, with the exception of two complete systems, which
>> included a couple of full days of my time handholding both of them during
>> installation, including on site visitation and system design. So if you
>> factor in many hours of support, the prices are no way near as high as
>> they might seem on the surface. Both clients paid me just about what they
>> could have had another company install a full system for actually. But
>> the hooker that always goes with that one is the industry standard long
>> term contract !! One client didn't want monitoring, and the other chose
>> to go for $9.95 monitoring from The Monitoring Station in Toronto. I told
>> him that if he wanted me to monitor it, he would lose the ability to go
>> into low level programming and this didn't suit him.
>>
>> This page was an experiment put up some time ago to see just what the DIY
>> market is really looking for....low prices like many give over the
>> internet, or high prices INCLUDING a high personal level of support from
>> a professional installer. It seems they are looking for low prices
>> primarily !! So be it ! DIY'ers seem to feel they can do things right off
>> the bat the way you and I have spent years learning. They quickly find
>> out they can't and in the two cases I sold too, my expertise after the
>> fact was well worth the extra money (their words, not mine....)
>>
>> This is also in keeping with the way I sell professional security
>> services, and there there clearly IS a market for that......full but fair
>> market pricing for the alarm system, including physical security options
>> and locksmithing work, and low pricing for a bundled package of service,
>> warranty and monitoring for $10 less than national retail on a month to
>> month basis. The clients who come to me know they can avoid long term
>> contracts and get a very real, personal level of support with their
>> system. It seems, there is a great demand for that in the market niche
>> where people want a reliable system so they can get on with other more
>> important things in their lives.
>>
>> So criticize all you want. On the surface, you are right ! But in
>> fairness, put it in perspective. And frankly, for all the sales the page
>> has made in the DIY market where price seems to be the ONLY
>> consideration, I might just as well take it down. But if it helps you
>> guys in any way, I'll leave it up.
>>
>> And one other bit of advice ! Read, then THINK a little about things
>> before you stick your foot in your mouth....:))
>>
>> RHC
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>> "Stanley Barthfarkle" <sbarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> RH operates a DIY website.He sell a Paradox 646 keypad for $90.00 that
>>>> cost the dealer $25.75. Everyone thought Bass's price were insane. See
>>>> it for your self  http://www3.sympatico.ca/rh.campbell/do-it-yo.htm
>>>> Talk about price gouging. Shame on you RH. The way you present yourself
>>>> in this group as one who helps others. No wonder you never mention this
>>>> DIY web site here. You sure showed your true colors.
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>>> OK- so he sells high priced equipment. That helps everyone. Why? Because
>>> folks like him make it easier for folks who price things reasonably to
>>> sell more. He is also raising the average price that folks see when they
>>> do a search for item prices. Let him sell high- it just gives the rest
>>> of us yet another comparison as to why our stuff is such a good deal.
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