Re: RH Campbell - Talk about price gouging

["Stanley Barthfarkle" <sbarth@xxxxxxxxx>]

I think you're admonishing the wrong guy- the OP may have been criticising,
but I merely stated that overpriced items are a good thing for those of us
who charge fair market value. It's a free market society, and I like it that
way. Nope, the high priced sellers help me- it's the lowball discounters who
hurt my pocketbook, so Thank You.


"R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Actually your right ! Just about anyone else's prices are a good deal
> compared to mine when comparing just the prices themselves. I originally
> put up a  DIY page on my website some time ago, and as I say on my site,
> my prices are high....VERY high. But if you also read correctly, and were
> not so quick to take things out of context, you will also see there are
> conditions... I sell only in the local Ottawa area, I can design the
> system for him on site, and I supply TOTAL support to the DIY'er, even
> delivering the equipment. I will assist the client in just about
> everything except running the wire and actually doing the installation
> work. And I tell him right up front that my prices are higher than he can
> get on the internet (or just about anywhere else for that matter). There's
> nothing hidden here !
>
> So if he still chooses to buy DIY from me, he knows what to expect,
> including premium pricing. I will also be the first to tell you that I
> have sold very little, with the exception of two complete systems, which
> included a couple of full days of my time handholding both of them during
> installation, including on site visitation and system design. So if you
> factor in many hours of support, the prices are no way near as high as
> they might seem on the surface. Both clients paid me just about what they
> could have had another company install a full system for actually. But the
> hooker that always goes with that one is the industry standard long term
> contract !! One client didn't want monitoring, and the other chose to go
> for $9.95 monitoring from The Monitoring Station in Toronto. I told him
> that if he wanted me to monitor it, he would lose the ability to go into
> low level programming and this didn't suit him.
>
> This page was an experiment put up some time ago to see just what the DIY
> market is really looking for....low prices like many give over the
> internet, or high prices INCLUDING a high personal level of support from a
> professional installer. It seems they are looking for low prices primarily
> !! So be it ! DIY'ers seem to feel they can do things right off the bat
> the way you and I have spent years learning. They quickly find out they
> can't and in the two cases I sold too, my expertise after the fact was
> well worth the extra money (their words, not mine....)
>
> This is also in keeping with the way I sell professional security
> services, and there there clearly IS a market for that......full but fair
> market pricing for the alarm system, including physical security options
> and locksmithing work, and low pricing for a bundled package of service,
> warranty and monitoring for $10 less than national retail on a month to
> month basis. The clients who come to me know they can avoid long term
> contracts and get a very real, personal level of support with their
> system. It seems, there is a great demand for that in the market niche
> where people want a reliable system so they can get on with other more
> important things in their lives.
>
> So criticize all you want. On the surface, you are right ! But in
> fairness, put it in perspective. And frankly, for all the sales the page
> has made in the DIY market where price seems to be the ONLY consideration,
> I might just as well take it down. But if it helps you guys in any way,
> I'll leave it up.
>
> And one other bit of advice ! Read, then THINK a little about things
> before you stick your foot in your mouth....:))
>
> RHC
>
> "Stanley Barthfarkle" <sbarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> RH operates a DIY website.He sell a Paradox 646 keypad for $90.00 that
>>> cost the dealer $25.75. Everyone thought Bass's price were insane. See
>>> it for your self  http://www3.sympatico.ca/rh.campbell/do-it-yo.htm
>>> Talk about price gouging. Shame on you RH. The way you present yourself
>>> in this group as one who helps others. No wonder you never mention this
>>> DIY web site here. You sure showed your true colors.
>>
>>
>> OK- so he sells high priced equipment. That helps everyone. Why? Because
>> folks like him make it easier for folks who price things reasonably to
>> sell more. He is also raising the average price that folks see when they
>> do a search for item prices. Let him sell high- it just gives the rest of
>> us yet another comparison as to why our stuff is such a good deal.
>>
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