Re: New 10 digit dialing problems

["mikey" <loismustdie@xxxxxxxxx>]

I don't feel sorry for them at all. It wasn't just Bell folk privy to this,
I knew about it before I met you. I remember hearing about this happening
elsewhere and dialling a 7 digit number using the area code 10 freaking
years ago and it rang.... fucking d'uh, why wouldn't I program them with 10
digits? What we have to worry about is idiots giving up their landlines.
This upcoming generation that like those things glued to the ears just seem
oblivious to things like talk battery.
Good Lord, man! I sound like my dad. Arggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhh

"R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:iNH6g.4384$ix6.336628@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Quite right Mike ! I knew this was in the plans some 15 years ago when I
> worked for Bell, so I have always programmed 10 digits into the dialer. My
> comments were more in regard to the thousands of panels out there that
have
> been taken over by the Borg through aquisitions. At the time when they
> bought the old VSN accounts these all had 7 digit numbers (they even had
to
> make special arrangements to refer the numbers to their station at the
> time). I suspect that "Big Blue" will have a major problem with this
unless
> they have some sort of contingency plan in place; otherwise, they will
have
> many thousands of customers with no functional alarm panels, and who will
> never know it, since they won't show failures to communicate. And you
can't
> communicate with V3 DSC 1550 panels without the special version of
software
> that they may or may not have.Takeovers though? That is steady and goes
> without saying...
>
> I was looking for real life experiences in areas where this has happened
in
> the past. I have seen local interviews with one of the larger independant
> companies in the area where they were complaining of the huge volume of
work
> they need to do as a result of the change (roughly 5000 accounts)
>
> Not often I feel sorry for the Borg....
>
> RHC
>
> "mikey" <loismustdie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:445b289a$1$29239$88260bb3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > There is at least one opportunistic company here charging 95- simply to
> > download
> > the changes. Mine have be dialling 10 digits for 10 years, there's no
> > excuse
> > for not being ready for this, it's not like we didn't know it was
coming.
> >
> > "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:8f519cbe04a552448c741c24efab1e61@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> R. H. Campbell said:
> >>
> >> >Effective 17 June 2006, residents of the two area codes 613 and 819 in
> >> >Eastern Canada will be required to dial the area code before the
number
> > in
> >> >order to make any kind of local call. This has a major bearing on how
> > alarm
> >> >panels work, since they too have to dial a 10 digit receiver number,
and
> > I'm
> >> >sure most alarm companies are rushing to reprogram their customers
> > panels.
> >> >However, I have to wonder what is going to happen to all those many
> >> >thousands of older panels which have been acquired through aquisitions
> >> >by
> >> >the larger companies, and which are not capable of being dialed into
to
> > make
> >> >the necessary changes to the receiver number. It doesn't seem
practical
> > (or
> >> >even logistically possible) to make a visit to each panel to program
the
> >> >changes, especially for the largest companies with multi thousands of
> > these
> >> >panels in service.
> >>
> >> Practical or not, it has to be done.  An alarm company would be
> > exceedingly
> >> negligent if it failed to reprogram its systems (or install another
type
> > of
> >> transmitter), knowing full well that those systems could not possibly
> >> communicate with the central station.  Especially if they keep cashing
> >> the
> >> checks after the changeover date.
> >>
> >> Using 800 numbers prevents all kinds of problems, especially when area
> >> codes get split.
> >>
> >> However, nobody said the alarm companies have to do the changes for
free.
> >> It isn't the alarm company's fault that the phone company is changing a
> >> policy that's been in effect for over 50 years.
> >>
> >> I don't know what governmental oversight there is in Canada.  You may
be
> >> able to get more time, either from the phone company or from the
> > regulatory
> >> agency.  It's not just alarm systems, there are a ton of credit card
> >> machines and other equipment that may need to be reprogrammed.
> >> Hopefully,
> >> CANASA was on top of this from the beginning.
> >>
> >> - badenov
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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