Re: Quick opinion poll regarding Bass' multiple "PR" posts

["mikey" <loismustdie@xxxxxxxxx>]

He warned us in advance? Fuck off, Allen. Whatthefuck? Do you read
every damn subject line before you click on it?
The dink is a self-centered asshole! I don't see you selling here!!!,
why do you make excuses for this jackass?

"Allan Waghalter" <awaghalter@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:P8yVf.538$mu2.376@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> I really have no problem with Robert and all of his shenanigans.  I have
> finally realized that the man has a great sense of humor, albeit sick
humor
> on occasions.   He knows what he is doing!  He does not attack or flame
> those who have not attacked him.... although I get burned occasionally
too.
> Roberts posture is a defensive one.  He is out to win!  If you attack him,
> you are open game for any retaliation.  He will hit back with all he's
got.
> The lesson to be learned is not to attack him!
>
> As for the product post.... he warned us in advance that he was going to
do
> it.  While I just deleted them in mass, I understood why he posted them.
By
> getting all of those products into the Google Search Engine, anyone
looking
> for almost anything will be directed to his web site. As for the FAQ, none
> of us ever signed up agreeing to follow that long obsolete document.  The
> FAQ is just like homeowner deed restrictions.  If they are not strictly
> enforced, then they become non-enforceable in a court of law.  I have
served
> on my homeowners board for about 20 years and we never let our guard down
on
> violations.  We have even gone to the extreme of hiring a management firm
to
> do nothing but look for violations, write letters and sue for correction
if
> necessary.  We have done no such thing here, so if the FAQ ever was "Law",
> it isn't now.  Reichman has recently posted that the FAQ was his
> suggestion... it was never formalized.  I am glad he did what he did
because
> it gave us an open forum for the industry.  I have made many friends from
> this news group and received much technical assistance for which I am
> appreciative and grateful.
>
> As for his business problems, BBB, complaint letters, etc.  Having been in
> multiple businesses over the years I have learned that you can't please
all
> of the people all of the time.  I do my best, but I still may run afoul of
a
> customer from time to time.  While I certainly don't agree with his not
> responding to the complaints with the BBB it is certainly his prerogative.
> I see nothing to be gained by not resolving the issues, even if he is 100%
> in the right, which he probably isn't.  I would rather satisfy almost any
> demand from a customer to keep them on-line with me than risk creating an
> enemy that will talked against me and hurt my reputation.
>
> As for the personal problems, legal, marital, etc he has had, leave them
> alone!  He has more than paid the price for his transgressions.  There is
> nothing to be gained by constantly bringing up his past.  I would hate to
> have someone reminding me of any mistakes I made in the past every time I
> show my face!  I don't generally quote scripture, but in John 8 5-8, Jesus
> defends a woman convicted of prostitution by saying, "If any of you is
> without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."  When my car
> needs repair, I don't care that the mechanic served time in jail.  I just
> want him to be able to fix my car.  I don't want the phone man or security
> man to be a Felon, but if he doesn't enter my house, then I don't care.
When
> someone orders a DIY system from Robert, they don't care that his may have
> had a legal problem in the past, only that he can supply them with a panel
> and sensors to do the job without having to go to Radio Shack.  We can't
> really judge his actions not having walked in his shoes!
>
> All flame wars, fights, disagreements and problems aside, Robert
> consistently takes his time to answer almost any technical question that
is
> asked and generally does it very completely!  Yes, he may miss the mark
> sometimes, but haven't we all done that from time to time?  There are
> probably hundreds or thousands of people who either contribute or lurk on
> our news group.  I know the local wholesalers read the postings and I know
> that management of the major manufacturers read the newsgroup.  They
> generally don't post because they don't want to become an on-line tech
> support center, but they lurk to keep a pulse on the industry and their
> positions within it and the activities of their competitors.   Yet, there
> are only a few people who want to post RLB's past every time he answers a
> question and/or offers to supply product.  I know that you don't like him
> because of  attacks he made upon you, but he most likely didn't make the
> first punch.
>
> Robert is so high profile, that if he were doing anything illegal, he
would
> have been shut down a long time ago.  In the interest of all, I would
prefer
> to see all of us just get along in peace and harmony and share technical
> information.  There is a wealth of knowledge in this group and it
sometimes
> get lost in the flame wars.  If you really can't stomach Robert, just
block
> his posts.  I couldn't take Paul, so I have him blocked, with his hundred
> monikers, but everyone else comes through.
>
> Allan Waghalter
> Security Sure Alarm Company
> Houston, TX 77071
> www.securitysure.com
> 713-771-8887 - Fax: 713-776-3996
>
>
>
>
> "Frank Olson" <Use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
> news:KFrVf.181254$sa3.85535@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >A number of you have already expressed their disgust over the way Bass
> >seems to think he can do anything he likes here with impunity (including
> >blatantly violating the group's FAQ).  I'd like to see what the rest of
you
> >think.  RHC, Bob La Londe, Alan W., Crash, , Jim Rojas, Jackcsg,... Most
of
> >you try to stay out of the squabbles that frequently spark here and
that's
> >fine.  I respect that.  How do you feel about this latest "PR" flood
> >though?  Are you in favour of it??  Do you want this group to become
> >nothing more than a venue for the likes of Robert and Mike S. to flog
their
> >wares?  Now is the time to speak up.  To stand up and support the
> >principles expressed in the founding message and the FAQ.
> >
> > I'm not one to sit here and simply let this happen.  "Davey Crokett"
> > posted a message that outlined Corenews TOS.  Optimum Online also has a
> > very strict policy against spam and unsolicited advertising.
> >
> > abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > abuse@xxxxxx
> >
> > Frank Olson
> > http://www.yoursecuritysource.com
>
>


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