Re: ADT Essential Wireless Package

[J. <jsloud2001<removeme>@netscape.net>]

On 29 Jul 2006 13:22:58 -0700, "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>J. wrote:
>> On 28 Jul 2006 18:50:39 -0700, "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Most of the above is somewhat subjective but.......  OK ........
>> >
>> >But ....... How big is their customer base?
>> >Me thinks you go a bit too far.
>> >At what quantity do you think and end user might feel comfortable?
>>
>> Here's a fun little game to play.  Find a five year old phone book.
>> Call all the local alarm companies in the book.  How many are still in
>> business?  Past success is indicative of future performance.
>
>Bullshit. You sound like the typical ADT brainwashed sales person. You
>can do the same thing for any installation trade. Any average
>installation company, with any experience in this trade, doesn't
>advertise in the yellow pages. So .... in fact, anyone who's
>advertising in them is either a large company who's got the deep
>pockets to do it and doesn't miss the exobitant amount of money they
>cost, for the mininimal response gleaned from them ..... or ....
>someone who doesn't know any better. It's all word of mouth referrals
>in this and in most trades .... and if you had any experience as an
>entrepreneur rather than an employee, you'd know that.
>
>Here's a little game for YOU to play.
>
>Find my company name in a phone book.
>
>Nah, don't bother. Yet ....... I've been in this industry for 36 years,
>have an unlisted telephone number, don't advertise and I've had a box
>of 1000 business cards for about 10 years and it isn't even half empty.
>If I told you what my income was and how many accounts I have and gain
>every month ...... you'd actually shut your mouth for at least a
>second.
>
>Here's another game. Give me ANY already installed ADT residential
>system and I'll take it away from them within an hour. Their sales
>people are generally unaware of how systems should be installed or
>spec'd. They are almost taught how to sell a system but don't have a
>clue about where and how things should be installed.  I've taken every
>job away from them that I've ever quoted. They stink.
>
>With regard to their installations ..... Their touting to unsuspecting
>end users, that three doors and a motion detector is a "comprehensive,
>state of the art alarm system" has ruined this industry. In spite of
>the fact that most of their jobs are spec'd as wireless, their
>subcontracted or directly employed installers don't know how to install
>them. Since the installers generally don't have to do service the
>service calls, the installs are done sloppy and improper because they
>leave it up to the servicemen to fix their mistakes or depend upon the
>fact that the end user doesn't know that it's not done that way by
>experienced installers ..... who actually CARE about their customers.
>They wouldn't know how to install a concealed contact if their lives
>depened on it. Or .... perhaps I should say, they WOULDN'T install one.
>They generally do shoddy and slipshod work leaving wires and component
>exposed. They don't install RJ31X jacks or panel earth grounds, unless
>it's really-really convenient. Motion detectors mounted over keypads,
>because it's convenient, so that they've got to be put on delay.
>Wireless transmitters mounted on doors rather than molding, because
>it's more convenient. Siren mounted right below the motion detector,
>because it's convenient.
>
>Gimme a break with your defense of a defensless miscreant in this
>trade.
>The only reason that you don't have every participant in this Newsgroup
>jamming this back up your ass is because we've been down this road so
>many times before, it gets rather boring to have to put up with people
>like you, who occasionally come here showing how oblivious they are to
>what actually happens in this trade.
>
>By the way, keep in mind that "this trade" is composed of primarily
>small alarm installation companys, who make up the majority of the
>trade, and install more systems and monitor more accounts than all of
>the "mega" companys put together.
>
>Do YOU get the picture now?


Wow.  How long did it take you to write that?  Hope you've calmed down
a little.  Sounds like you don't know shit about running a business.