Re: Radionics system questions

["Mark M." <traguspiercing@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I read in your message that you want to do both door access and zone
expansion. This is not possible with the D8112 series. The D8112G2 is the
only model that is capable of expansion, through a now defunct concept of
master zones. The D8112A is capable of door access (4 doors max), but not
zone expansion, you are limited to the 8 on board zones. Forget about the E,
E1, G, and G1. The D8112G2 and the A are the only truly useful controls
(considering the age of the technology). The D8128 will work on the A and
G2, but the A panel is not designed for fire. The A panel would require the
D8131 Access module, which is capable of doing 2 doors in the 26 bit Wiegand
format. Since you need more than 8 points, you would be limited to using the
G2. The G2 has no access capabilities, but used to be UL for fire. A listing
is no longer maintained. To really do access, security and fire, you would
have to go with the 9000/7000 series of panels (D7412/D9412, as the X412
series are the only combo panels capable of access, 2 doors for the D7412
and 8 doors for the D9412). This requires one D9210B for each access door).
Throw the 5100 programmer out. The 5200 is much more friendly, and programs
more stuff. The RAM software is friendlier still, but has certain
requirements as to the modem, especially programming the D8112 since the
panel talks at a whopping 110 BPS. (BTW, I could program a D8112 or
9000/7000 series panel via phone line). The keypads on the D8112 are not
supervised, supervision is a programmable option for up to 8 keypads on the
9000/7000 series panels. There is a keypad available for strictly fire
control on the 9000/7000, the D1256. The keypads (1256 and 1255) are only
supervised against removal from the SDI bus, but by going with a strict fire
keypad in the public area, you negate a bit of potential tampering. The D128
is not compatible with the 9000/7000 panels. You would have to use a D928
for the dual phone lines. The D8125's would be compatible with the 9000/7000
panels, providing that they are within a certain date code. The date code on
the D8125 has to be higher than 9434 and date code on D8127 popits would
have to be higher than 9434. All of the D8126 and D9127 popits are
compatible with both model panels e.g. the 8112 and the 9000/7000. The 1256
is not compatible with the 8112 series. The 1252 keypads would not be
compatible with the 9000/7000. The D1255 (all models of the 9000/7000
including the obsolete B series) and the D1260 (Panel rev 6.5 or higher)
would be. Programming the D8112 and the 9000/7000 series panels should
really be left up to a professional experienced with the ins and outs of
access, fire and security. The programming can be fairly complex, and the
Radionics panels in general are not geared for the DIY person.

Hope this helps clarify some things. Oh...EAR never really worked, so it was
never really fully implemented. The 9000/7000 panels are capable of doing a
type of listen in (sort of), but the CS needs to have a D6600 receiver
capable of doing the listen in, and all you can really do is pick up a
premises phone and talk to the operator.

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